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EU says social platforms can be ordered to take down unlawful content worldwide

62 pointsby techtonicsover 5 years ago

7 comments

matthewmacleodover 5 years ago
This is an intentionally misleading headline which seeks to play into the US tech community’s carefully nurtured scepticism about regulation originating from the EU.<p>What has actually happened: the CJEU has decided that EU law does not place a restriction on member states’ legal systems with regard to whether or not they can issue injunctions or request content be blocked worldwide. It is a case of the CJEU deciding that EU law does not affect existing processes.
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fockover 5 years ago
Well, not sure what the EU really said (Wired might be biased towards &quot;big-tech&quot; more than to strange European (or more likely: select-minority-being-successful-in-interparty-fights) ideas of the rule of law) but as it stands this is really concerning as it either shows<p>a) a neo-colonial relapse: Europe knows what&#x27;s right for the world.<p>b) another step at the official adoption of authoritarianism on this world. How about the Chinese government taking down any material on the existence of Tinamen-Square-massacre (yeah, I know, it was just a peaceful sit-in and the people just progressed to a higher plane of existence so there&#x27;s noone left to tell the story) or the existence of the NRC worldwide? It&#x27;s great for business certainly!
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luckylionover 5 years ago
Weirdly worded. Am I missing something? I understand this to mean that the court (not the EU!) said that EU law doesn&#x27;t forbid the take down orders that are issued by EU members, it does <i>not</i> say that EU law (or national law of member states) is applicable world wide.<p>It didn&#x27;t rule on whether a global take down notice is lawful, just that the take down notice itself isn&#x27;t unlawful in general.
rahuldottechover 5 years ago
Yeah, I don&#x27;t know about this. If a certain item may be &quot;unlawful&quot; in the EU, but not India. What then? Why should I not be able to see such content just because some government halfway around the world has a problem with it?<p>Furthermore, take this hypothetical case: A government makes it illegal for folks to share any information about ongoing crises&#x2F;protests in the country on social media. Does this mean that people <i>outside</i> said country also won&#x27;t be able to talk about it on social media? That would be disastrous for discourse on the internet as it exists today.
buboardover 5 years ago
... and then they can be sued for taking down content unlawfully... and they we ll have supreme courts fighting each other
mwyahover 5 years ago
So basically what China does: take down content that is illegal according to the way we see the world or exit our market.
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codingslaveover 5 years ago
They cant stop the internet, and neither can China. Technology will move too fast for these governments to get an iron grip, the cat is out if the bag.
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