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Writing Is Thinking: Learning to Write with Confidence

529 pointsby stephsmithioover 5 years ago

9 comments

sonecaover 5 years ago
I write in Portuguese with confidence. Then I started to get confidence writing in English. Then I got confident enough to start writing a newsletter with writing advice <i>in English</i> [0]<p>Then someone in HN commented in one of my posts <i>&quot;I don&#x27;t trust any writing advice from someone who thinks &quot;certificated&quot; is a word&quot;</i> lol<p>That killed most of my confidence of writing in English and I gave up the idea of having a newsletter.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;writingfordevelopers.substack.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;writingfordevelopers.substack.com</a>
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atoavover 5 years ago
A technique I often use when I ended up in a confused spot or feel unhappy is to write letters to a person without sending them.<p>Somehow having a person in mind that you have to explain the whole mess to, really fucuses your thoughts and helps you in some way to figure out where you stand faster and more easily.
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CalChrisover 5 years ago
Thinking is thinking and writing is writing. We regret the confusion.<p>Writing is work. You start with words on paper (or on a laptop) and you keep on working until it isn&#x27;t crap. You start with something. You end with something better.<p>What your college writing instructors were teaching you was your mistakes. Think about them and remember them. When they pointed out a mistake, keep on a lookout because you&#x27;ll make that mistake again. People don&#x27;t make random mistakes. They are very systematic in their mistakes. I still remember my corrections.<p>When I was in college my trick was to get a draft done a week before the deadline. It wasn&#x27;t perfect. It was anything but perfect. But it was something. It said roughly, not perfectly by any stretch, what I wanted to say. Then I wrote, rewrote, edited, deleted, added, corrected, reworded, reordered, cited, formatted, spell checked, grammar checked, perfected, critiqued, tweaked, read aloud, questioned, ... on up to the deadline.<p>I worked. I didn&#x27;t think. I worked. I didn&#x27;t wait for some great thought to descend upon me from the clouds at the deadline (that works for Maureen Dowd but I&#x27;m not Maureen Dowd; she has talent and I don&#x27;t). I worked. Fact is, I enjoyed my work. Pretty much a day before the deadline, I was damned cocky about my writing (lowest essay grade, A-) and <i>then</i> I really started having fun. At that point, I was relaxed and I really knew what I wanted. Like a cook who enjoys their own cooking, when I go back to re-read it, I thoroughly enjoy my own writing. The work and the craft show, to me at least. And if it doesn&#x27;t show to me then it can&#x27;t show to someone else.<p>Writing is work. It is closer to restaurant prep than it is to confiserie.
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greggman2over 5 years ago
I know I struggled with writing when I was in junior high and high school. Now as an adult I find it relatively easy I think. My advice to my junior high school teacher would be to talk to the student (me) about something they enjoy. Whatever that is today I have no idea. Fortnite? Boys? Girls? whatever, ask what the kid is into. Then ask questions about it. Why do they like it? What&#x27;s so cool about it. What&#x27;s it like to do. Etc.. After they&#x27;ve talked your ear off for 10 minutes tell them to just write everything they just told you.<p>No idea if that would work but I feel like most people have no trouble talking about things they enjoy. Could be a movie, a TV show, a sport, science, twitter, instagram, no idea. If my 8th grade teacher had not asked me to write but instead just talked with me about say D&amp;D, something I was into, I&#x27;m sure I could have spoken 1000-5000 words on it. The same words I&#x27;d have said to another kid I wanted to introduce D&amp;D to them. I believe that would have helped me write sooner.<p>I also wonder if the internet is a net plus here. People write short tweets but lots of people write long comments. This comment itself is more than I think I ever wrote on a teacher chosen topic in 8th grade.
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mttyngover 5 years ago
It’s exceedingly difficult to write clearly and get your point across, and this is especially true for technical subject matter. Steven Pinker calls this the “blindness of expertise” which prohibits us from explaining concepts we’re familiar with in a clear way because we assume the reader to have more knowledge than they actually do. Reading his book, “A Sense of Style” made a lot of things clearer to me in terms of writing. I recommend the book highly, even though it gets _super_ deep on grammatical structure and, from my perspective, that tended to be a little dry (and over my head).
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sheinsheishover 5 years ago
I write in English. Not a lot but I do. It’s not my native language though. My mother language is greek. I grew up in Greece, then in age of around 23 went to study piano in Germany for 5 years and instead of going back to Greece I landed in Croatia. Here I had to learn a complete new (Slavic?) language. It took me 3 years. In the meantime I was consuming English content in the “usually suspicious” ways, internet, software, books, movies, tv etc. The way I communicated with my wife was in german first(where we met), then a little greek and after we got back to Zagreb &#x2F; Croatia, we crossfaded to croatian the more I learned it. My point is: I can read and write a specific language (croatian or english better the other two less) the same goes for talking. But there’s absolute no distinction whatsoever in my head about what is the way I think in : croatian or greek? I really don’t know. It’s like a fog or cloud. What do you guys think ?
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cryptobro1984over 5 years ago
I&#x27;ve really enjoyed weekly writer&#x27;s meetups. They come in different flavors, but essentially, writers get together in a coffee shop, chat for 5 minutes, and then write for an hour or two in silence. Helps make writing a little more fun than sitting in a cave by yourself, and it&#x27;s nice to connect with fellow writers.
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stephsmithioover 5 years ago
Growing up, writing was often my least favourite thing to do. It still doesn&#x27;t come &quot;naturally&quot; to me, but this year I starting using a process that makes it easier for me to &quot;show up&quot;. I&#x27;ve basically tried to lower the barrier to entry.<p>Curious to know what writing tips or processes others are using to strengthen their &quot;writing muscle&quot;.
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Roritharrover 5 years ago
I always stop myself writing longer professional articles as what I&#x27;d like to write doesnt fit my own bar of quality requirements.<p>I have some experience in a couple of fields and deeper experience in a few, but I can&#x27;t really point to any studies that would underpin any learnings or points I&#x27;d like to make and without those I feel what ever I write becomes just the ramblings of someone vaguely qualified.<p>I have a much easier time giving advice in person, sometimes having a couple of people invite me to observe &amp; coach, but somehow writing feels like it requires so much more care and study that it frightens me to start.
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