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Jack Ma Says 12-Hour Work Week Could Be the Norm

37 pointsby un_montagnardover 5 years ago

14 comments

godelmachineover 5 years ago
At the risk of being downvoted - I have stopped paying attention to Jack Ma. He only knows to to talk.<p>Edit - Since someone’s asking for an explanation as to why I stopped patting attention to Mr Ma ...<p>I have seen 2-3 videos where he sounds really inspirational. Like one where he breaks down a persons career timeline and what he would be doing at particular age groups. (Probably the most viral video of him)<p>Second video where he speaks on how we humans can stay relevant in age of AI (By changing education in his words, teaching children to paint, play sports et al which we already do anyways).<p>The second video was where I started doubting if he’s a clueless person and just goes around fooling people.<p>Final nail in the coffin was his video with Elon Musk. I couldn’t believe for a minute when Mr Ma says he has just returned from Mars. After that he said AI should be named Alibaba Intelligence (If he had only cracked open a book and read about the Dartmouth conference). And then the icing on the cake, the answer to AI is love.<p>I won’t deny that love may be answer to AI, but Jack was just mincing words to make another inspirational video.
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JohnJamesRamboover 5 years ago
I read this as 12 hour workday and got irate. That’s the tune he usually sings...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fastcompany.com&#x2F;90335059&#x2F;alibaba-founder-jack-ma-says-12-hour-workdays-are-a-blessing-but-hes-wrong" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fastcompany.com&#x2F;90335059&#x2F;alibaba-founder-jack-ma...</a>
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bithavocover 5 years ago
Here&#x27;s a 5 minute summary of the conversation between Elon Musk and Jack Ma. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;aHGd6LqAVzw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;aHGd6LqAVzw</a>
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shams93over 5 years ago
Instead what we get are some people working 140 hours for 40 hours pay while millions are completely pushed out of the economy. These kind of benefits will not happen automatically it&#x27;s going to take serious class warfare and real revolution and bloodshed to get there .
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antiviralover 5 years ago
If this ever happens, the reality will be closer to having companies keeping 30% of the people to work 40 hours and just not bothering to hire the other 70%.
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olivermarksover 5 years ago
Oligarchs crystal ball gazing about future money making opportunities for minions after they have automated most job roles out of existence.
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rdlecler1over 5 years ago
As long as we have housing and health as limited resources people will just use time to work harder to obtain those resources.
factsaresacredover 5 years ago
&gt; <i>The economic problem may be solved...man will be faced with his real, his permanent problem - how to use his freedom from pressing economic cares, how to occupy the leisure, which science and compound interest will have won for him, to live wisely and agreeably and well...three-hour shifts or a fifteen-hour week may put off the problem for a great while.</i><p>— John Maynard Keynes in 1930.<p>Still waiting for this to be true before buying into the 12-hour work week theory.
justicezyxover 5 years ago
This guy ask employee to work 996 and defended that practice openly.<p>And frankly, he is about clueless as most citizens on AI (as demonstrated in his awkward interchange with Leon recently), there isn&#x27;t much of weight of such statement...
onetimemanytimeover 5 years ago
Jut image what father &#x2F;mother you could be: leave work at 9 and come back at 9, exhausted. 6 days a week. Time with your kids? I guess one could it for a year or months at certain periods of their life but as norm?
TomMckennyover 5 years ago
Possible indeed, Keynes pointed that out a couple generations ago. And as always it depends solely on whether society is run such that people benefit from or compete with technology.
undefined3840over 5 years ago
Wouldn’t be surprised if this guy ended up being a puppet for some larger entity this entire time ala Epstein.
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jjthebluntover 5 years ago
Where, by the subjunctive mood verb “could”, they mean “never will be”?
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mogadsheuover 5 years ago
The Ma&#x2F;Musk AI debate in China showed two very different societal approaches to how to handle the impact of AI.<p>Ma’s approach is: everybody work less and enjoy the perks.<p>Musk’s is: learn AI or perish, and beware the consequences.<p>The two aren’t mutually exclusive, although the messages are different. I believe this because Musk’s assertion of an elite few living in tall spires and the masses living in relative poverty was overtly dismissed by Ma, but I felt that his facial expressions suggested that he was hiding his agreement of it.
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