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Ask HN: How do I protect my side project IP at work?

7 pointsby markwover 14 years ago
I like coding up various projects in my free time, and there's the potential for one of them to gain a little traction now that my employer wants to use it to promote their API. It was largely put together before I worked there, but it's being constantly improved and updated.<p>I've talked to them and they're cool that I'll continue to own the IP. However, I also want to get confirmation in writing to be doubly sure, but I'm not sure what such a document or contract would look like. Does anyone have an example or pointers? More general suggestions are welcome too!

6 comments

rdrimmieover 14 years ago
The knowledgable folk will probably benefit from knowing your region and if there is anything regarding IP in your employment contract.<p>Anecdotally, my employment contract has a clause that grants my employer shared copyright to all my work unless they officially disclaim interest, but because that clause exists there's also a pretty simple process: I present a 1-paragraph overview of the project and someone with signatory authority writes on the paper "[My employer] is not interested in this project." Then signs it.<p>I don't know how well this would stand up if it ever came down to a court case, and there's definite benefit in that there's only 8 of us here so pinning down such an authority is a matter of me putting the paper on the desk next to mine.
staunchover 14 years ago
IANAL. If it's related to what your employer is doing <i>and</i> you involve it with one of their projects you're asking for trouble.<p>The best you can probably do is:<p>a) Keep a very detailed (hand written) log of all work related to your side project.<p>b) Don't use any company resources for your side project (laptop, accounts, anything).<p>c) Sign an agreement licensing the code to them for use in promoting their API.
impover 14 years ago
This should cover most of the basics for you: <a href="http://blog.asmartbear.com/working-startup.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.asmartbear.com/working-startup.html</a><p>I think patio11 also has a blog post on that, but I'm too lazy to look it up now.<p>FWIW, I've done it twice and neither time did I write up a formal contract. I just emailed my supervisor describing what I was doing and asked if they had any objections. No problems either time.<p>Since it sounds like there is some intermingling of your side project and your day job, I would definitely get something signed. Probably nothing formal, just something like the asmartbear post describes.
tgflynnover 14 years ago
The IP agreement I was forced to sign by my previous employer claimed ownership of anything I did that "related to their business interests". Since they were one of the largest corporations in the US with myriad companies and divisions I didn't see any way to assert that any technological development did not "relate to their business interests".<p>This agreement is one of the main reasons that they are my "former" employer.<p>I'm curious how widespread such all encompassing IP agreements are in the industry and what people here think of them. (What I think of them cannot be expressed in polite conversation.)
kaviover 14 years ago
Hi<p>i'm in a similar situation for the last 9 or 10 years. What I do is not develop anything (not a single line) with either the time or the resources of my current employer (a Greek university).<p>If you are involved in any kind of contract as your company's employee, don't include your IP as background IP. It is better to declare none.<p>Also you have to rule out all previous (if there are any) employers from any demands. You have to make clear (through a legal document) your conditions on the fair use of your IP as well as your obligations and benefits.<p>-kavi
kylelibraover 14 years ago
If there is any sort of paper trail already created (i.e. emails) make sure you save those as well.