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ICE has kept British family with their 3-month-old baby detained for days

91 pointsby primrootover 5 years ago

15 comments

cpercivaover 5 years ago
I don&#x27;t know the full story here, but there&#x27;s more going on than the family is claiming. The first thing the American border guards tried to do when this family &quot;accidentally&quot; entered the USA was to return them to Canada, but Canadian border officials denied them re-entry: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theglobeandmail.com&#x2F;canada&#x2F;british-columbia&#x2F;article-british-family-who-crossed-us-border-while-vacationing-in-bc-to-be&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theglobeandmail.com&#x2F;canada&#x2F;british-columbia&#x2F;arti...</a>
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kstenerudover 5 years ago
&quot;The Connors family says it didn’t plan to be on the unmarked road. The two couples and their three young children were driving near the U.S.-Canada border on Oct. 3 during a visit to Vancouver when an animal ventured into the road, forcing them to make an unexpected detour.&quot;<p>&quot;U.S. authorities disputed the family’s version of events, saying they were spotted via video surveillance “slowly and deliberately driving through a ditch onto Boundary Road in Lynden, Washington” between parallel roadways on the U.S. and Canadian sides. The roads are not connected by cross streets, and the only legal way to traverse between the countries is at staffed border stations throughout the region.&quot;<p>I lived for many years in Vancouver, and there is no road connecting Canada and the USA without a checkpoint until you hit the logging roads in the Rockies (a 3 hour drive East). It&#x27;s not possible to cross over to Boundary road without driving off-road.
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sifflandover 5 years ago
I am confused, they are angry what the American government has done to them.<p>What were they supposed to do. Canada will not let them reenter, they had been denied entry to the US so it is not like they were going to just release them to run around the US after illegally entering, and the UK is being slow about the deportation. The family is still together and they didn&#x27;t remove the child. Were they supposed to be put in a 5 star hotel?<p>People complain about the condition when they illegally cross into the US (I am from southern Texas and have a lot of exposure to this), but just image the conditions if you got caught illegally crossing into say Russia, or China, or Iran.
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code4teeover 5 years ago
It would appear there is a lot more to the story than the headlines imply.<p>For example evidence disputes their account of how they ended up in the US and the fact that they previously tried to enter the US and were denied for reasons not fully clear. I’m ignoring the sensationalist headlines for now until the full story comes out.<p>ICE may have some challenges but they’re not just rounding up nice wholesome British families and throwing them in the slammer for no reason.
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stanskiover 5 years ago
Not to say that it&#x27;s okay to detain people with an infant in reportedly (and believably) poor conditions this long but the whole story is very strange.<p>They took a different road to avoid an animal? Was there a grizzly attacking their car or something? Then the Canadians refused to allow them back. Suspicious to say the least.
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jacknewsover 5 years ago
Did they have a return flight back to UK from Canada?<p>If true, why were they carrying $16k, and was it USD or CAD?<p>Obviously Canada&#x27;s alleged refusal to re-admit them needs an official statement (and explanation) too, why did WaPo not follow that up?<p>Are their identities real?<p>I guess only the courts will flush out anything even resembling the actual course of events in this post-truth era.
fxleachover 5 years ago
Stop pushing this story with this ridiculously click-baited title. More like &quot;ICE detains family crossing border illegally with $16k in cash, previously denied entry&quot;.
sct202over 5 years ago
While it is very suspicious what&#x27;s happened, I&#x27;ve ridden with people who have inadvertently offloaded on to bike paths and continued to drive as if nothing was wrong.
ycombonatorover 5 years ago
Canada would not accept them and their previous Visa waivers to the US got denied. There is more to this than the clickbait title let’s on.
someonehereover 5 years ago
From everything being described this looks like an entire waste of money moving them around to different places and housing them. Have you ever seen the government run something effectively ?
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RandomInteger4over 5 years ago
How the frick do you accidentally drive into the US?
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Cenkover 5 years ago
Non-paywalled reporting from The Guardian: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk-news&#x2F;2019&#x2F;oct&#x2F;15&#x2F;uk-family-arrested-in-us-for-inadvertently-crossing-border" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk-news&#x2F;2019&#x2F;oct&#x2F;15&#x2F;uk-family-ar...</a>
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algaeontoastover 5 years ago
If I over stayed my visa in most of Europe, especially in Turkey or Russia why would you expect a different outcome?<p>If you break the law there are consequences - welcome to the real world...
avgeek23over 5 years ago
Why is such treatment being dolled out to citizens on other countries,wasn&#x27;t this baby seperation thing only reserved for Mexicans and those who crossed form the south.
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shekhardesignerover 5 years ago
If only ICE&#x2F;CBP could release the video where they caught them trespassing.<p>Feels like the family wants to gain emotional support through three months old child saga.<p>I side solely with ICE in this particular case, that they didn&#x27;t simply offer a &#x27;Return back&#x27; option. Common, if ICE starts to do that - there will be a handful flux of people giving it a try hoping that if they were caught - they can simply return back.<p>Expecting a catered service in the detention center is overboard. Government run facilities, over-crowded all the time, they got a family detention center, not an ordinary one itself should make them feel safer. I am assuming the British family is trying to use the white privilege.<p>Whole 16K cash in hand story and two families blah blah - there is way more to the story.