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Apple's New Privacy Page

78 pointsby andrewgioiaover 5 years ago

9 comments

jakejarvisover 5 years ago
Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I&#x27;m impressed with the progress Apple has made in spearheading consumer privacy practices — but unfortunately, half of the benefits listed here are negated by the fact that my iCloud backups are fully unencrypted (or &quot;encrypted&quot; with a common key that Apple holds; same thing in my view).<p>So, if I want convenient nightly backups (without plugging my phone in and using the &quot;new&quot; Catalina apps, which I&#x27;m still convinced are just new iTunes skins), Apple — and adversaries — will still have unfettered access to all my iMessages, Maps history, photos, health records, almost everything listed here and more [0][1].<p>Tim Cook has claimed a fix is coming for a while now [2], but meanwhile using iCloud for its intended purpose is a <i>huge</i>, and largely unadvertised, gaping hole in Apple&#x27;s otherwise impressive privacy promises. :(<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;3&#x2F;2&#x2F;11144588&#x2F;walt-mossberg-apple-vs-fbi-iphone-icloud-loophole" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;3&#x2F;2&#x2F;11144588&#x2F;walt-mossberg-app...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cellebrite.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;productupdates&#x2F;move-your-investigations-forward-with-data-from-icloud-and-samsung-backups&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cellebrite.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;productupdates&#x2F;move-your-inves...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.macrumors.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;28&#x2F;eff-user-encrypted-icloud-backups-apple&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.macrumors.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;28&#x2F;eff-user-encrypted-iclo...</a>
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084537over 5 years ago
Apple cares more about privacy than, e.g., Google, for sure, but it is extremely complicated to use an iOS device without an Apple ID, and Apple employs &quot;know your customer&quot; logic that caused me to give up after a few hours trying to create an Apple ID not connected with my real name and credit card.
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trcaover 5 years ago
Those animations videos are so well done, very pleasing to the eye to watch
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type0over 5 years ago
&gt; What you share from those experiences, and who you share it with, should be up to you.<p>They should have added this: ultimately it&#x27;s up to you to trust us, you don&#x27;t control Apple devices, we do :-) and we make decisions that are best for you - just give us money.
byteshockover 5 years ago
Privacy coming from Apple is laughable. If you have an iPhone and have location services on ( which most of us do) go to location settings and check “system services”.<p>Google what those services do. They’re all for sending unnecessary location data to Apple for analytics, which is all enabled by default.<p>They claim to respect your privacy, but under the hood it’s a different story.
dagdesherenover 5 years ago
Privacy my ass. Allow me to setup MY phone without a ping back to the mothership, and allow us to side-load apps or download free apps from the store without an apple ID.
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byteshockover 5 years ago
Privacy coming from Apple is laughable. If you have an iPhone and have location services on ( which most of us do) go to location settings and check “system services”.<p>Google what those services actually do. They’re all for sending unnecessary location data to Apple for analytics, which is all enabled by default.<p>They claim to respect your privacy, but under the hood it’s a different story.
ssfrrover 5 years ago
&quot;Messages are only seen by who you send them to.&quot; - Unless that person shares an Apple ID with someone else.<p>I recently sent an iMessage and got a &quot;who is this?&quot; response. Turns out the message went to one of their family members.<p>I guess they shouldn&#x27;t be sharing an Apple ID, but I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a super crazy thing to do among family members (e.g. a parent who provides a phone for their child), and having private text messages go to the wrong person seems like a pretty bad failure mode.
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bibbitybobbityover 5 years ago
I don&#x27;t think privacy works when I don&#x27;t trust Apple period. They have done shady anti consumer things like decreasing battery life. This feels like lip service till I see implementation details(and even then I want to see the code).
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