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Patreon CEO says the company’s generous business model is not sustainable

25 pointsby andygcookover 5 years ago

8 comments

busterarmover 5 years ago
Patreon:<p>You have too many employees. You are trying to do too much. You are not a tech company. Your business model should be that you facilitate transactions between multiple parties. To do this, you take a small cut, on top of the transaction fees the banks take that you pass on.<p>Stop being greedy.
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SyneRyderover 5 years ago
<i>The company is also on track to pay out $500 million to content creators in 2019... 90 percent of funds are paid directly to content creators. Patreon takes 5 percent, and the remaining 5 percent covers transaction fees.</i><p>By my rough maths, that suggests Patreon runs on $25-$28 Million a year. I&#x27;d love to know what is costing them so much to be unsustainable (Customer support? Fraud department?)
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prependover 5 years ago
It seems odd that they would have profitability issues since they are just a wrapper around PayPal. They should be pocketing the 6-7% after PayPal’s cut and the payout to creators for 90%.<p>I thought that this was one of those 4-hour-work week businesses where it was just the founder registering domain names and planning marketing.<p>It also seems odd that creators don’t just use PayPal directly and ask for scheduled transactions.
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duxupover 5 years ago
Maybe I&#x27;m missing something here but just taking a cut of the transaction I would think would make profitability pretty easy with some discipline...
invisibleskyover 5 years ago
I had such a good laugh that CNBC called them a crowdfunding site after I got admonished by Patreon for thinking they were a crowdfunding site. Internally, they&#x27;ve convinced themselves they&#x27;re a membership site and they can&#x27;t figure out why they have a messaging problem...
dependenttypesover 5 years ago
Not that long ago they started banning accounts that posted lewd art, even though half of the point of patreon is to be a paywall thing for lewd art.
sincerelyover 5 years ago
What the hell are they doing with all that money??
ddingusover 5 years ago
Sure it is. Scale back.<p>Or, face competition.<p>And generous? Who is doing the work?<p>Notice the focus on all the money paid to content creators?<p>They need it.<p>So much always going to the top is not generally sustainable. Unrest is all over the place.<p>If we can&#x27;t figure out how to pay working people enough to actually make it, this whole thing is going south.<p>Not just Patreon.<p>Frankly, Patreon was one of the ones I felt better about. Now I don&#x27;t and will immediately find ways to contribute to content creators I support directly.<p>And doing that is just not that much work.