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A Look at PureDarwin – An OS Based on the Open Source Core of macOS

244 pointsby jamiewebover 5 years ago

11 comments

DavidPiperover 5 years ago
This was one of my hobbies at University (learning how it works, not contributing to it, to be clear). This SuperUser question was basically the culmination of my effort before I ran out of spare time, found a job, etc.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;superuser.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;546151&#x2F;is-it-possible-to-compile-a-darwin-distro-from-source-like-you-can-a-build-a-li" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;superuser.com&#x2F;questions&#x2F;546151&#x2F;is-it-possible-to-com...</a><p>I&#x27;m super excited that people are still working on this! I miss having the time to go down rabbit holes, but for those that are there&#x27;s are people out there watching!
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epaulsonover 5 years ago
I wish the PureDarwin folks would prioritize clear build instructions. It&#x27;d be really great to see something like a &quot;Linux From Scratch&quot; or process to build a bootable disk image using only what&#x27;s in their git repos. (Maybe it exists but if so it doesn&#x27;t show up&#x2F;is linked to from any of the obvious pages of their wiki)<p>That seems like a necessary first step towards eventually getting a bootable ISO that can install a PureDarwin system on a blank machine, physical or virtual.
mukundmrover 5 years ago
Apple&#x27;s Open Source repository has the current version of Catalina&#x27;s core. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensource.apple.com&#x2F;release&#x2F;macos-10145.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensource.apple.com&#x2F;release&#x2F;macos-10145.html</a><p>Why is PureDarwin on an older version? Lack of volunteers? Too many hacks required?
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Alohaover 5 years ago
Why would I want to use Darwin?<p>macOS has some UI advantages, its the largest reason I use it - but without cocoa, and all of the core foundations that make OSX, OSX, I just dont see the point.
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ilovecachingover 5 years ago
Are there are Darwin hackers lurking on HN? I would pay good money to get a brief summary of the kernel for kernel hackers such as myself who only know how things work in Linux. What are the big architectural differences or cool features not in Linux? Also, how hard is it to upstream changes&#x2F;get drivers in mainline?
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Wowfunhappyover 5 years ago
I have to wonder, why does Apple even make Darwin open source?<p>It doesn’t seem like it’s of much use to Apple—there isn&#x27;t some large community of outside contributors submitting pull requests. So why do they bother?
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Wowfunhappyover 5 years ago
If you don’t mind the fact that they’re closed source, could the original Apple kexts be used for networking?
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rnd0over 5 years ago
I&#x27;m not really sure how useful it is for most of us -but it doesn&#x27;t have to be. Not all operating systems are general-purpose.<p>I&#x27;m glad to see it continues to be maintained and published though I share the frustration other&#x27;s have mentioned about how incomplete it is. There is no &quot;more&quot;, no &quot;less&quot;, no &quot;halt&quot;, no &quot;shutdown&quot; -those are just a few of the &quot;wtf&quot; finds that pop up on casual examination.
saagarjhaover 5 years ago
I wonder if GNUstep works on this…
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orionblastarover 5 years ago
I am glad someone is keeping up with Darwin and making a version one does not need to compile to be able to use.<p>I wonder if it can run OSX command line programs?
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ngcc_hkover 5 years ago
Can it run nvidia card Sk my old mac can be used; windows can run it but it optimised.