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Ketogenic diet helps tame flu virus in mice

111 pointsby conse_ladover 5 years ago

11 comments

jdkdnfndnfjdover 5 years ago
PSA: keto appeared to cure my psychosis.<p>A while ago I experienced a traumatic event. Immediately I had sleep disruption and slowly I began to have textbook symptoms of psychosis. It was horrible and unpleasant. I went on keto and the symptoms went away. I stopped due to side effects and the symptoms came back. I went back on and the symptoms went away immediately. And on and off for a long time, with a perfect correlation between the two. The doctors who diagnosed me with psychosis don’t care that keto does this. I told them that I have figured out how to cure my symptoms and they just give me a blank look. They prescribed me an antipsychotic which I have never had to take although I have come close to needing it a few times. I tell them there are other people who have written about similar experiences and they don’t care. So I have to get the word out like this.<p>The psychosis is curbed within 24 hours of starting keto. Sleep disturbance persists for about five days. After five days it’s as though nothing had been wrong at all.<p>I get a really bad rash after a couple of days of keto. This is a well known side effect of keto although it is uncommon. I’ve tried various things, the only one that worked was applying drysol prior to keto, preventing the rash-prone areas from sweating. This gives a clue about the rash, which is important because no studies have been done and its cause has not been determined. If I didn’t get this rash I would happily stay on keto forever.<p>There’s never been a study about ketosis and psychosis. There’s one being done in Finland right now, although the sample size leaves much to be desired. I’m in contact with the primary researcher and the paper might be released as early as one *year from now.
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bad_userover 5 years ago
In mice.<p>Also unfortunately the study failed to control the protein. Control group had a diet made of 24% protein, keto group ate 10% protein.<p>Protein restriction has been shown to have profound immune modulatory effects.<p>Protein restriction is a massive confounder in such studies. Caloric deficit is often another. These often go hand in hand.
DanielleMolloyover 5 years ago
My scientifically unverified pet theory:<p>Ketosis is the body&#x27;s winter state. When no carbs are growing outside fat resources need to be used up and the brain needs to work well on a steady stream of ketones as it is more difficult to find food in winter. This immune system boost is also helpful during winter as there are less vitamine sources available. For some reason you also need less sleep.<p>When carbs are available in summer, the body tries to gather weight, and for this the carb addiction pattern is quite helpful. A high-carb diet is the summer state.
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wpietriover 5 years ago
Whoa. When I&#x27;m sick, that&#x27;s when I most crave refined carbs. Could the virus be evolved to trigger that? Kind of in the same way colds are evolved to make me sneeze so I spread them?
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samfisher83over 5 years ago
They don&#x27;t seem to provide the tables with the data just graphs. There is a lot more variance with keto group than the other groups. However its still better than the carb group, but not that much better than high fat group&#x2F; Also they only used ~20 mice and didn&#x27;t make the groups the same for example they have 5 in carb group. I wish studies would do better job of providing tables so you can look at data.
shadykillerover 5 years ago
One more positive from Keto apart from the health and longevity benefits (studied in mice)
ThrowawayIPover 5 years ago
In mice.
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darkersideover 5 years ago
I&#x27;m curious how long it takes for the inflammasome effect to set in. Can you start going keto when you get the sniffles and shorten the duration of illness?
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LordAtlasover 5 years ago
I&#x27;m sure all the mice reading this must be happy.
infradigover 5 years ago
Chicken soup anyone?
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tempsolutionover 5 years ago
Wow, revolutionary. It&#x27;s not like its been known for years already that sugar acts as an effective immune suppressant.<p>It&#x27;s always funny to see how school medicine tracks the state of the art by 20 years into the past and then another 40 before it hits the actual doctors and their patients (for the latter part, ongoing re-education requirements might help as to avoid people like my grandma who still thinks after being 30 years out of practice that what she learned after the second world war in her studies is the state of the art of medicine).<p>For the first part, I have no answer. Something is utterly broken with the way school medicine &quot;innovates&quot;.<p>I would love to be able to write this while drinking my extra large soda and next to it a piece of chocolate cake. Yeah, cancer here I come.
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