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The Gap Rips Off Hobbyist's Flickr Photo for Baby-Sized T-Shirt

11 pointsby stonesixoneover 14 years ago

7 comments

Samuel_Michonover 14 years ago
Side by side comparison:<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cdevers/5402217217/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/cdevers/5402217217/in/photostre...</a><p>So sure, it's obvious that the shirt's designer used Chris Devers' photo to start with. However, after all the alterations made (turning it into monotone, heavily posterizing it, cleaning it up), I would say it's fair use.<p>Of course, it would've been nicer if GAP had simply licensed the photo.
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georgemcbayover 14 years ago
On the one hand, yeah, they pretty clearly used his photo as a reference here... on the other hand, it isn't like he designed the Jaguar himself. He simply captured the light bouncing off one that already existed in an okay but not particularly noteworthy photo.<p>On the third hand, this will probably turn out to be one of those situations where The Gap had nothing to do with the design and got it from an external freelancer who passed it off as his/her own.
JacobAldridgeover 14 years ago
Link to cdevers' Flickr post - <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cdevers/5402217217/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/cdevers/5402217217/</a><p>and the specific Creative Commons license he chose (through Flickr) to apply to the image - <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed.en_GB" rel="nofollow">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed.en_GB</a><p>Fairly explicit about attribution, no derivative works, and no commercial use; all three appear to have been violated here by Gap or (as georgemcbay points out) an external freelancer toying around.<p>Edit: I tend to assume ignorance over malice, so assuming it was a freelancer let's assume they didn't realise their derivative work would ever end up on a Gap shirt. They may have played with the image 18 months ago, stored it somewhere, shared it somewhere, forgotten or mis-remembered its origins, submitted it on an unlikely spec, and 'oh shit, that's right, I shouldn't have done that, and of all the designs I've ever submitted <i>that's</i> the one that gets through!'.<p>Said freelancer won't be accepted by Gap again. Gap still needs to do something to mitigate the brand impact. Choose whichever is the cheapest of pulling the line, publicly apologising, or offering a token compensation amount (not linked to sales or anything that could be construed as actual licensing of the image) subject to details not being revealed.
krigover 14 years ago
I don't know american copyright law, but in Sweden we have something called "verkshöjd". Meaning a work has to meet a minimal standard of creativity/originality to be considered copyrightable. I sincerely doubt this photo would meet those requirements. On the other hand, the design based on the photo would. As would the design of the car itself.
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bradleylandover 14 years ago
Devers' response seems to lack perspective. Consider the size of The Gap. Outside of clothing designed in-house and commissioned with subs, The Gap likely buys product lines from various mills around the globe. Any idea how difficult it must be to clear the IP of every photo used on every SKU in the Gap catalog?<p>Yes, it sucks that his photo was used, but because of the amount of processing done to the photo, it's unlikely that any automated system would have caught the link, if that kind of thing even exists.<p>I can virtually guarantee that no one from a managerial or corporate level endorsed the theft of Mr. Devers' photo. That's the exact opposite of what managers want, and they're engaged in a battle with their supply chain every day trying to avoid the very thing that has happened here.
jergasonover 14 years ago
Wow, there are some NSFW (in links to unrelated stories) on that site. Heads up to the rest of you guys if you care about that sort of thing.
austinBover 14 years ago
I say if we cut any retailer some slack at this time it should be GAP. Years of rampant store growth resulting in complete mall saturation, a multi million dollar re-branding campaign pulled days after releasing and now this??? I remember when it was cool to wear a GAP 'est. 1969' hooded sweatshirt in elementary school.