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Ask HN: How to save your side projects from your Employers?

12 pointsby codesternewsover 5 years ago
Most people have the Side Projects and most often employers force the employee to take ownership if it is successful.<p>What steps you can take to save and make it a successful project assuming the nonsense contracts does not allow it etc.

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PragmaticPulpover 5 years ago
&gt; Most people have the Side Projects and most often employers force the employee to take ownership if it is successful.<p>Most people don&#x27;t have side projects. Most companies have zero interest in taking ownership of your unrelated hobby project.<p>The exception is if your side project overlaps with your employer&#x27;s core business. Example: If your employer makes database software and your side project is an iPhone game for kids, they have zero interest in your IP. It would be a waste of their time and money to seize it, and they aren&#x27;t going to allocate resources to running it.<p>On the other hand, if you&#x27;re employed develop database software and you also create a database side project while employed there, then yes, your employer will have valid claim to that IP.<p>The closer your side project is to your day job, the more interested they&#x27;ll be in taking it. You can&#x27;t collect a paycheck from a company, have access to their IP, while simultaneously working on a competing project in secret.
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finsrudover 5 years ago
See if your employer would be open to using GitHub&#x27;s open source employee IP agreement: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;github&#x2F;balanced-employee-ip-agreement" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;github&#x2F;balanced-employee-ip-agreement</a>.<p>It&#x27;s a bit more balanced than the standard IP Agreements most tech companies are using.
NonEUCitizenover 5 years ago
1. Move to California and make sure you are payrolled in California under California law (not remote contractor to out of state company).<p>1a. When&#x2F;If joining a new company, list your side projects in the &quot;Pre-existing IP&quot; paperwork, to be excluded from their ownership. Read carefully and make sure it&#x27;s not mistakenly placed in the list of things that they get a free license to.<p>2. Make sure your side project is not in the same line of business as your employer&#x27;s.<p>3. Make sure you use your own time and equipment for your side project.
javaIsGreatover 5 years ago
If you are working for a company that is large enough to have a legal team you can ask them about it.<p>I asked a software company this about 2 years ago in the bay area and they gave me a form to sign stating it doesnt compete with the company&#x27;s products and i explained what i was doing.<p>If they say otherwise you can take it from there!
buboardover 5 years ago
make them profitable, quit and have no employer. problem solved.<p>but oh wait. IT salaries are so high that it&#x27;s impossible to match them nowadays
probinsoover 5 years ago
use a computer, learn basic threat modeling