TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Would You Rather Be Middle Class in 2011 or Rich in 1973?

31 pointsby caixaover 14 years ago

16 comments

forensicover 14 years ago
If I can have dinners at expensive restaurants, yachts, manors, apartments throughout the world, unlimited access to high class prostitutes, the respect, deference, fear, and love of the masses who stand in awe of my wealth...<p>rich in pretty much ANY time.<p>No matter what year it is it's always better to be on top. That's where most of the human pleasure comes from.<p>Xboxes and iPhones are really no substitute for being on top of society.
评论 #2190856 未加载
评论 #2190884 未加载
diegoover 14 years ago
Relative wealth is what gets you the most mating opportunities and gives your genes a competitive advantage, to put it in a pseudo-academic language. Geoffrey Miller's The Mating Mind is way more interesting and deeper than this article if you are interested in the subject. Spent is even more about relative wealth as a fitness signal, but a bit fluffier.
Vivtekover 14 years ago
Rich in 1900 is my choice. I'll bet the food then <i>rocked</i> - I'll just take one year's income at face value and the house I'm living in now, without 111 years of intervening decay. The rich industrialist who lived here in 1900 will have to find new digs.<p>But no contest. I'd turn back that clock right now.
评论 #2190325 未加载
评论 #2190332 未加载
评论 #2190701 未加载
评论 #2190431 未加载
评论 #2190391 未加载
评论 #2190496 未加载
jerfover 14 years ago
"more authentic pleasures like books, films, music, and jet travel to exotic spots (without T&#38;A frisking at airports)"<p>Yeah, but... 2011 is a win on every front there except the last. (And that may be debatable; you better like your exotic spots <i>very</i> exotic.) If you do not confine yourself to pre-1970s books, firms, and music <i>right now</i>, it's because you like the stuff that came later better, no matter how nostalgic you think you are. You may think there's more garbage in 2011 but there's a lot more good stuff, too, and a lot more well-populated niches.<p>I mean, sure, wealthy in 1973 over middle class today in the broad sense, but not for that reason. And I <i>will</i> take middle-class 2011 over rich 1900. I'm not sure where the exact cross-over is, but it's certainly within that bound.
NickPollardover 14 years ago
Maybe it's just the fact that I'm a hacker and a child of the digital age, but I'd take the ability to have a 1ghz computer in my pocket connected to the entire world for a couple of hundred bucks, against paying thousands of dollars for a machine that probably can't even do truetype rendering.
评论 #2190475 未加载
评论 #2190382 未加载
rbanffyover 14 years ago
Rich in '73 is such an obvious choice...
评论 #2190300 未加载
评论 #2190366 未加载
fuzzythinkerover 14 years ago
Would you rather be middle class in 2040 or rich in 2011?
cabalamatover 14 years ago
Rich in '73 -- I'd invent Smalltalk before Alan Kay did.
评论 #2190749 未加载
johngaltover 14 years ago
Seems like a false comparison:<p>1973-&#62;2011 = 38years<p>1900-&#62;1973 = 73years<p>Although it does make me aware of an interesting question. Obviously I'd rather be rich last year over middle class this year. How about five years ago? Ten? A hundred?<p>As fun as questions like this are, we don't get to make that choice. Might as well just focus on getting rich now :-/
gte910hover 14 years ago
You've not taken into account the social changes:<p>You'd hate the way people talk and act in 1973.
aristidbover 14 years ago
"But I suppose everyone thinks their youth was some sort of Golden Age."
joubertover 14 years ago
Do I die in 1974?
Lucover 14 years ago
I would have loved to have been rich, or even middle class, at the start of the home computer revolution.
tastybitesover 14 years ago
Rich in 1973, because people who were rich in 1973 are, by and large, even richer in 2011.
评论 #2190440 未加载
Charuruover 14 years ago
I'd rather be in the lowest 10% 100 years from now.
johnoharaover 14 years ago
Here's an interesting document from the US Census Bureau:<p><a href="http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-097.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-097.pdf</a><p>In 1973, 628,000 families made less than $1000.00 per year. That's $.48 per hour for a 40-hour week. 8.1 million (14.1%) families made less that $5000 that year.<p>In 2011, annual unemployment benefits for an individual can reach about $20,000. In 1973, that amount would rank in the upper 18% of all family incomes.<p>Making $50,000+ in 1973 would rank in the top 1%.
评论 #2192053 未加载
评论 #2190471 未加载