China has been covering it up for 2 months. Minimal action was taken to prevent the disease from spreading and they kept denying until a couple days ago when it was no longer possible to cover it up because it is spreading to neighboring countries who have been complaining for the whole time. Regional/local governments have been trying to downplay it because it makes them "look bad". It is essentially a replay of SARS. Only admit and take action when it's too late.
An important side story is that CCP's active political interference of Taiwan's participation in World Health Organisation and other international coordination effort in the past few years, can affect Taiwan's ability to contain any pandemic from spreading.<p>And since there is estimated 200,000 Taiwan nationals living across the strait, their mobility especially during the Spring festival can become a huge conduit for spreading infection from China into Taiwan.<p>It is high time that the UN commits to a resolution to insulate shared global issues (hygiene and environment) from politics, and stop China from playing with fire again and again.
If you're scared just read the wiki on SARS - the previous coronavirus infection - to refresh your memory.<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_SARS_outbreak" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_SARS_outbreak</a><p>It was a LOT worse that time - Chinese government basically covering up for the first 6 months, virus isolated only much later, sequenced months later.
If anyone wants to track the progression of the virus, I created a quick site with a Google Maps embed to show where the virus has been found so far. I'll be improving it over the next few days.<p><a href="http://www.coronavirusmap.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.coronavirusmap.com/</a>
As someone who lives quite close to the hospital in the article, it was interesting seeing reactions this morning at the office. Some people immediately wondered about their immuno compromised friends and family, while others (myself included) just sort of said "huh" and went about our day. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
It is not SARS, but it is highly possible that it was caused by people who kill and sell wild animals in the live poultry market. Where these animals like gem-faced civet got virus from bats. It is a long-held tradition for certain regions in China to eat wild animals. We even have a Chengyu called: 山珍海味, meaning precious and tasty animals from mountains and seas. Most wild animals are not evolved to be eaten by human, so not like beef or pork, they do not taste well. People only eat it because they can. Because they want to show others that they can. This is sad.
Coronaviruses are transmitted in what seems to be the same manner as influenza and generate some of the same symptoms. Why do the worst coronaviruses, like SARS, transmit so slowly, while the flu is practically ubiquitous?
They suspected a man in Australia of having it and were awaiting test results yesterdayish too <a href="https://www.smh.com.au/national/first-australian-monitored-for-coronavirus-authorities-confirm-20200121-p53tc7.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.smh.com.au/national/first-australian-monitored-f...</a><p>There is also /r/China_Flu/ for those that wanta centralized location for news.<p>I think this is certainly not a great thing but I urge people not to panic. Any time some sort of new disease starts to spread a portion of the population immediately overreacts and starts to get a little nutty "how do I protect myself? What should I buy? Will bleach kill it?! How about OmniCide, Madacide, Opticide?!?!".<p>Keep in mind that colds and regular flu are going around right now too, if you feel sick it's probably <i>not</i> this virus. Last week my office had a stomach bug, by Friday a few people had bad head/chest colds, this week the stomach bug is all gone and half the office has a head/chest cold and definitely not this virus yet someone on second shift has a hospital mask on (and as far as I know don't have a valid medical reason to remotely justify it).
<a href="https://www.mobs-lab.org/2019ncov.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.mobs-lab.org/2019ncov.html</a><p>Current modeling estimates put the likely number of infections between 1 and 6.2 thousand, primarily concentrated in China.
I read on Reddit that Chinese New Year is the largest regularly occurring human migration event in the world. Millions of Chinese people gather on public transport and planes To go home to celebrate. It’s in a few days I think.<p>Also I’m not sure how the CDC is preparing for this under 45, but given the state of the federal government I would guess it’s less prepared than the days of the Ebola scare.<p>Hopefully things will not be too interesting. I hate it when things are interesting.
I was in Guangdong when SARS happened in 2003, I have heard rumors for months until the Chinese gov eventually admitted there's such virus exists. Ever since then I basically have zero trust in the Chinese gov. For this time, since Chinese new year is coming, I had actually warned my coworkers do not go back to China, especially Wuhan, a couple days back. So bad not everyone listen, now they are kind of scared.
I feel like it has been so long since the swine flu, bird flu, H1N1 flu, and other flu scares that we are due for one.<p>Like the recessions the flu scares are cyclical.
This virus is going to spread a lot wider and faster in the next month as chinese new year is next week. Most people are going to their home town then back to major cities all over the world not just China.
Anyone have a sober perspective of how bad this is likely to get? Is this comparable to a bad but forgetten-by-the-next-year flu strain? To SARS? To the Spanish Flu?
<i>A traveler from China</i> landing on US soil, and detected at the airport (Seattle). This isn't spreading in the US population... yet. (And won't be from this, if containment procedures in Seattle work... and if they didn't transmit it to others on the plane... and maybe a few other ifs.)
The U.N. should declare an emergency to curb the spreading of the coronavirus(they are still talking over this like wtf!). Neighboring countries have amped up screenings of flyers from China.
The Chinese government has had difficulties handling the situation. I think we might need WHO to jump in soon.<p>(Chinese New Years is in 3 days and few hundred million people will travel in congested trains and flights. Also people in China usually don’t cover their mouths when they cough)<p>Coronavirus: Chinese hospitals not testing patients, say relatives <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/21/coronavirus-chinese-hospitals-not-testing-patients-say-relatives" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/21/coronavirus-ch...</a><p>Wuhan virus kills fourth patient, infects hospital staff amid fear of ‘super-spreader’ <a href="https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3046908/new-china-virus-likely-human-transmission-stage-infections" rel="nofollow">https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3046908/new-...</a><p>man in Wuhan infected with coronavirus went to hospital but got sent away, took a flight to Dalian & became Patient Zero in Dalian <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/erszdd/disease_control_with_chinese_characteristics_man/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/erszdd/disease_contr...</a>
I read on the news first symptomes observed in USA,also here who[0] emergency prep. responses, given details about some cases
[0]<a href="https://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/year/2020/en/" rel="nofollow">https://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/year/2020/en/</a>