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Ask HN: Why shouldn't I shut down my business?

7 pointsby psychstudioover 5 years ago
Hi, I&#x27;m Ben Howell, founder of Psychstudio [psychstudio.com]. I have zero paying customers.<p>Psychstudio is a platform for building and hosting online behavioral experiments. It&#x27;s been public for just over a year and accepting payments for the last 7 months.<p>My email list has ~150 people on it and I send a newsletter every month. I publish very well researched content and those who read the articles get value out of them. I promote articles on twitter, linkedin and reddit.<p>There are competitors in the marketplace and I built Psychstudio to address some of the shortcomings of those competitors (which are our USP&#x27;s). I believe it&#x27;s the best product in the market, bar none.<p>I started working on this in July 2016 based on a lot of advice, feedback, customer interviews, etc. During development and testing, feedback from beta users shaped the product as it is today.<p>It&#x27;s not easy to admit defeat when it seems there are other products in this space but the numbers tell a grim tale. I can go into infinite detail on any aspect if needed. It&#x27;s also not easy admitting that I&#x27;ve had no customers whatsoever even though I&#x27;ve been doing this for years.<p>I really need your advice and thank you in advance.

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trezover 5 years ago
Hi Ben, kudos for building something you believe in.<p>My first impression is you have to talk to customers more and use face to face interviews. There is already a market for this kind of product so the issue might be: - bad targeting. Are you sure you talk to the right people? Who buy this kind of product ? Is the same people buying the product than the one using it ? - low reach. Conversions can be rare. Have you reached enough people ? - messaging. Do people really value your differenciation ? Do they understand your message? - price. Is it too expansive ? Not expansive enough to be credible - bad channel. How does the other company sell their product ? B2B sales ?<p>It seems to be you rely extensively on digital marketing to &quot;talk&quot; with prospects. Most of the time, one face to face can bring 10 times more info quickly.<p>I would also suggest to read the &quot;Test Mom&quot;. You may have done customers interview the wrong way<p>I hope this help and wish you good luck
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muzaniover 5 years ago
If you have something of good enough value, you should be able to get something cash in return.<p>It could be that you&#x27;re not creating enough value? Sure, there&#x27;s some. But true product market fit is when they beg to throw money at you.<p>It could be that you&#x27;re using the wrong revenue model. Firefox, Wikipedia, Facebook, Google all make a lot of wealth&#x2F;value, and they&#x27;re also pretty rich. But nobody directly pays for the service.<p>To quote Paul Graham:<p>&quot;If you can just avoid dying, you get rich. That sounds like a joke, but it&#x27;s actually a pretty good description of what happens in a typical startup. It certainly describes what happened in Viaweb. We avoided dying till we got rich.&quot;<p>There is one reason to not shut down: you have a lot of data on what didn&#x27;t go right, and you could use that data to see where else to go.<p>The only real reason to shut down is either you&#x27;ve run out of money or willpower. Even in that case, you could still sell off the site to competitors as the domain name and newsletter itself has good marketing value.
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SeniorSeniorover 5 years ago
Hollywood pays male actors more than it pays female actors. Usually. There are exceptions. Some females get equal pay. Asked why, asked how, asked what&#x27;s makes you special, one actress said, &quot;I asked for it.&quot;<p>Woody Allen said ninety-percent of success is just showing up. (I paraphrased that.) You&#x27;ve showed up. Now you need to ask people to pay for the value they receive.<p>I recommend a book titled &quot;Guerilla Advertising.&quot; Brainstorm with friends. Ask everyone you know... This is like phrasing a Google search; What you get depends upon what you ask. Your first question should be, &quot;What should I ask?&quot; I ask, are you marketing to the wrong people?<p>Read about the failures of Abraham Lincoln. The moral of is story - and the stories of many others - is that is isn&#x27;t &quot;failure&quot; until you accept it and give up. Until you give up non-success is just a part of the learning curve.
p0dover 5 years ago
As an outsider to your field your name sounds a little ominous. Like a room full of psychotic people. Explain to some people you don&#x27;t know in person what you do and then have them tell you back what it is you do. The results are surprising sometimes.