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The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

624 pointsby h9nover 5 years ago

96 comments

jarjouraover 5 years ago
As someone who worked on the iPad v1, I can tell you, it was a product built in search of a problem. It was going to compete against the, then, growing Netbook market. Steve Jobs thought Windows was going to win that market and hastily threw a team together to answer for it. However, during several all-hands, no one except SJ seemed even remotely excited about the product.<p>&quot;These things will probably sell in the educational market or something.&quot;<p>&quot;Developers will always surprise us, they will come up with use cases for us.&quot;<p>During development Amazon was proving that people wanted E-Book readers. So when it was clear the iPad didn&#x27;t yet have a coherent story from Apple, iBooks was thrown together at the eleventh hour and then SJ went on the attack against Amazon to push back against the growing Kindle market.<p>And then Windows 8 happened! People asked Apple (And Tim Cook), will we see touch-screen Macs? And instead Apple trapped itself in a corner by doubling down that the iPad was going to forgo running full macOS because something about people not wanting to touch their laptop screen. So here we are, a product that launched without a vision, and then hamstrung by ego.<p>It&#x27;s true that people who love their iPads, LOOOVE their iPads. So it&#x27;s a nice product. It&#x27;s definitely well made and I love reading the news on mine. It&#x27;s a great device to travel with, for sure, yet I agree with Gruber, this thing will never flourish outside of the niche markets its found itself in.
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Fiahilover 5 years ago
I completely agree with this article. The iPad hardware is absolutely wonderful, it&#x27;s light, gorgeous and powerful. I got the latest iPad pro to watch Netflix in bed and it fills that purpose completely.<p>However, the OS running on the machine is bad. Very bad. The multitasking is horrifying. The Files app is unusable (especially if you want to access your files from an FTP server). You have to use your finger to select a textbox on the screen before you can use your physical keyboard. Copy&#x2F;Paste between apps is a nightmare (mostly because of the really poor multitasking). Sharing your screen via Airplay is useless except for demoes (doesn&#x27;t match the target monitor resolution, nor transform the iPad into a giant touchpad). It doesn&#x27;t support multiple icloud&#x2F;gmail accounts (if you want to share it with your SO). I can use a terminal and SSH to my raspberry pi, but I can&#x27;t use git, bash, node, python, go or rust on it...<p>Just let met install MacOs instead, it can&#x27;t be worse.<p>PS: even having a console-only ubuntu VM would make me happy at this point.
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kobollover 5 years ago
I do digital painting on the side, as a hobby. In that field, the iPad Pro, specifically the Procreate app, has been revolutionary -- every single famous digital illustrator, concept artist, and comics artist I follow on Instagram has one, and they post gorgeous work done on them regularly. It&#x27;s the only tool that comes remotely close to challenging the gold standard workflow of Wacom tablet + Photoshop, and Wacom and Adobe have been feeling the heat, ratcheting up their marketing efforts to try and attract back budding young artists to their tools.<p>On the other hand, the iPad can&#x27;t seem to actually <i>replace</i> those tools. Those pro artists still use a Wacom for their professional corporate work. The problem is less the software, I think, than the limitations the software forces by nature of the hardware. For professional work, you need as big a screen as possible -- Wacoms go up to 32&quot;. You also need hotkeys for an efficient workflow. Hunting and tapping through menus on a touchscreen is, by nature, going to be slower then having your left hand ready to hit the undo command at a moment&#x27;s notice. Sure, it might be possible to plug a big external screen and a full keyboard into your iPad, but at that point, is it really an iPad anymore? What professional artist would bother buying an iPad to act as a desktop computer tower when they could buy an actual desktop computer tower with better specs for cheaper?<p>So the iPad is about as good as it can possibly be: such a good touchscreen tablet that professional artists love it in all situations where they&#x27;re willing to sacrifice power and flexibility for the convenience of a fully portable touchscreen tablet. It&#x27;s not very good at replacing a full professional art setup on a desktop. But should it really aspire to be? In other words, I agree with this article, but disagree with its conclusions. Tablets won&#x27;t replace laptops not because the iPad isn&#x27;t a good enough tablet, but because they&#x27;re simply never going to be the most efficient work machine you can buy.
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jwrover 5 years ago
This is a very good take on the subject. I love the iPad, I use it all the time. It&#x27;s an unbelievably good piece of hardware with a number of really good software applications. It is a surprisingly good thinking and note-taking tool, it&#x27;s the best tool (period) for reading datasheets (or any large PDF documents), it is a great music workstation if you connect a MIDI keyboard and&#x2F;or an external USB audio interface. But it is so sadly limited by the user interface and artificial restrictions that Apple places on the OS.<p>The worst thing is that the forced over-simplification of the UI features did <i>not</i> make it easier to use for beginners. I can see many people (including myself) struggling. So we have been forced into a &quot;compromise&quot; with all the downside, but none of the upside.<p>Given how great the hardware is (really, I think this is under-appreciated), I really hope Apple can get out of that thinking rut.<p>I also think that the slow iPad sales are directly connected to the mediocre OS software.
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0xCMPover 5 years ago
As someone who uses his iPad Pro regularly, I love all the multi tasking of the iPad.<p>I know many have written that they have issues with multiple windows on the iPad, but for me it&#x27;s never been better or easier. My main gripe is keyboard behavior which is very buggy, but not related to how easy&#x2F;hard it is to make and move apps around the screen.<p>The fact is that the iPad is only useful because of its software. In my case it&#x27;d be useless without Files, Working Copy, Blink, Wireguard, and Screens. Only 1 of those is built-in and still it&#x27;s a fairly recent addition. And it&#x27;s the latest version on iOS 13 which is really the version which turbo-charged using many apps together easily. I use these apps to pretty much avoid directly using my &quot;real computers&quot; as much as possible via VMs or remote access via Wireguard.<p>But, I think we&#x27;re only seeing the beginning of the iPad. I can relate to the feeling that <i>&quot;we should have more of what we expected by now&quot;</i>, but the fact is that designing these power user interfaces, actually redesigning them for touch while making them compatible with existing ones, is very difficult.<p>A great example for HN is how we develop like we&#x27;re in the 70s with text terminals and executing commands. Where on the iPad it might make more sense for the terminal to be rich like a REPL where commands&#x2F;expressions act more like the results of a Shortcut (rich data, not just text) or code might be edited as an AST instead of the text which allows the concept of a &quot;source file&quot; to go away and instead there be a source database. Instead of trying to rebuild the editors we had we build something else designed for testing, iterating, and managing the AST. Dark[1] is a good example of this, but currently focused on the web.<p>This is all <i>way out there</i> right now, but it makes me think that the iPad is still <i>just getting started</i>.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;darklang.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;darklang.com&#x2F;</a>
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cactus2093over 5 years ago
Good points in the article. I also find the model names weirdly confusing, how did the iPad become the smaller, less powerful variant when the Air still exists? They did this with MacBooks too, though I think the tiny one may be discontinued now.<p>And why is the iPad peripheral system such a mess? The released the pencil 2 which is a significant usability improvement and had every indication of replacing the pencil 1, but that was years ago and they keep releasing new pencil 1 only devices, while just calling both of them “Apple Pencil” in many places. If you want a good pencil now, there’s no way to buy a moderately specced machine with it, you have to pay for the pro with more compute power than a high end laptop.<p>And ipads now have full usb host support, but instead of marketing that as a perk, they kind of pretend it doesn’t exist by calling it the “camera kit” like it only has one specific use.
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Maakuthover 5 years ago
&gt; How would anyone ever figure out how to split-screen multitask on the iPad if they didn’t already know how to do it?<p>I actually recently got my first personal iOS (okay, iPadOS) device and this is how I feel about many of the UI features. Touching some side of the screen triggers this or that surprising feature and I&#x27;m struggling to undo what I did to get back to the business. Maybe what&#x27;s needed is good old RTFM, but having heard how easy Apple device are to supposed to be to use, it&#x27;s kind of unexpected that so much of this stuff is not that discoverable.
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Slartieover 5 years ago
The iPad has failed as a general purpose computing device, sure. But it has succeeded (along with other tablet devices of similar form factor) as a basis for a large and growing number of single-purpose use cases in various industries:<p>- iPad POS are popular in smaller coffee shops and similar outlets<p>- iPad-based document viewing solutions are used by pilots to replace large bags with manuals for planes that they used to lug around<p>- iPads are used for meeting room management solutions, information displays for customers and similar purposes where one single application is to be run basically 24&#x2F;7 on a device with low power and space requirements, but where certain aesthetic requirements to the app as well as the hardware have to be satisfied<p>Granted, iPads don&#x27;t hold this space exclusively. But so don&#x27;t iPhones or Macs hold their respective application spaces exclusively, even though they significantly catalyzed their genesis.
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gnicholasover 5 years ago
Gruber is right that the iPad hasn&#x27;t revolutionized an industry like the Mac or iPhone. But the iPad was launched smack in the middle of the iPhone and the Mac, not in the middle of a green field.<p>The iPhone had competition below it, from feature phones and Blackberrys. But there was nothing above it. Similarly, the Mac was launched into a very nascent market, where there were competitors (PCs), but it wasn&#x27;t facing competition from above and below in the same way the iPad was.<p>Perhaps the iPad would have done better and grown faster if it had been made by a company that wasn&#x27;t worried about cannibalizing iPhone or Mac sales. But surely part of the reason the iPad has been as successful as it has is that it runs the same apps as iPhones and has attracted devs who might not have otherwise been interested.
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lowkeyokayover 5 years ago
&gt;By 1994 almost all graphic designers and illustrators were using computers for work.<p>The iPad is a great device but, it isn&#x27;t essential to anything or anyone. If tomorrow there where no iPads anymore, we would all just get on with our lives.
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cm2187over 5 years ago
Text selection is the most broken thing to me on an ipad. It makes any kind of editing pretty much unusable. Great device to browse the web from my bathtub and watch movies on a plane, but haven’t found any other usage.
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Heliosmasterover 5 years ago
From the comments here, I think many people are missing a very important factor: while we (as technologists) focus on what WE think of the iPad, or what we can do with it to be productive, this is only part of the picture of the general population.<p>In my opinion the iPad has had a tremendous impact within the general population and (combined with smartphones) got rid of the PC altogether for the average family. And tablets, especially for the elderly, are a true game-changer.<p>My mother, not a technologist at all (she doesn&#x27;t even have a cellphone) cannot live without her iPad. Granted that she could do everything with a smartphone, but the bigger screen of an iPad is particularly good for people who have a waning eyesight and, in general, might require a bit of a bigger UI (bigger buttons, etc.).
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apexalphaover 5 years ago
This is excellent. My grandma (89) uses an iPad and iPhone. She can use both these devices exactly because of the simplicity mentioned in the article.<p>1. Open app by tapping it.<p>2. Close it by tapping the physical button. (rip)<p>That&#x27;s it. And that&#x27;s why my grandma can use it. The first and only device she comfortably uses to this day.<p>People in our (tech) communities tend to overestimate a users ability with technology.
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killjoywashereover 5 years ago
The issue is the entrance into split-view, which should expose the springboard, not the dock.<p>The intuitive way to launch a second app would be to slide in from the right or left with two (three?) fingers, which would expose a compressed view of the springboard in split view. Then you could access all the apps intuitively (by swiping to the next page of apps) and launch the second app in the intuitive click-an-app method. This could even be tiled in a golden-rectangle geometry to expose a third app.<p>All you&#x27;re trying to do is repurpose the slide-right slide-left function to expose springboard in a new way, which can be done with a multi-finger gesture.
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pdimitarover 5 years ago
As a programmer, I absolutely gave up on the multitasking on my iPad Pro. I don&#x27;t use it in such a way and usually don&#x27;t care. And the very few cases I wanted to use it like that I couldn&#x27;t succeed in doing it even after my wife showed me 3 times (she uses her own iPad Pro in split screen very often and gotten used to the gestures; and even she makes mistakes occasionally).<p>Just an anecdote. I am a very technical user and I still got confused by the multitasking &#x2F; slide-over thing. So I just ignore it.
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wpietriover 5 years ago
It seems to me is that his main complaint is that the iPad fell short of what he dreamed it could do. But I think the problem there is in the dreaming, not the device.<p>I have a Samsung tablet, the Galaxy Tab S4. As a consumption device, it&#x27;s great. I read books and newspapers; I watch videos and movies; I play the occasional game. It&#x27;s great for that. I use my projector way less now, and don&#x27;t have to struggle with the awkwardness of phones or laptops for those tasks.<p>Like Gruber, I thought it might do more, so I got it with the keyboard case, and thought about traveling with just that. But I pretty quickly swapped that for a dumb case and just kept traveling with my laptop when I needed to do actual work. A real keyboard and a real trackpad are way more effective for productive work than anything that&#x27;s going to snap on to a tablet. Conversely, when I&#x27;m just aiming to consume something, there&#x27;s a lot of hardware and OS complexity I just don&#x27;t need.<p>I think it&#x27;s telling here that he doesn&#x27;t say what sort of revolution he really expects out of the iPad. He doesn&#x27;t talk about an audience or a use case the iPad could serve if there were specific changes. Instead it&#x27;s just a grumble about an obscure feature and how his grandmother struggles with it. In my view, tablets have definitely lived up to their potential. It just took us a bit to figure out what that potential really was.
Jemmover 5 years ago
My main gripe is that Apple chose to very aggressively kill or sleep apps running in the background.<p>I can understand this from a battery perspective but why not give us an option to let certain apps run in the background, especially when the iPad is plugged in to power.<p>As an example, if I start a download in Safari, I can’t use a different app until Safari finishes the download. I could use split-screen but who wants to watch a video I split screen.
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threatofrainover 5 years ago
&gt; The iPad was a new class of device, sitting between a phone and a laptop. To succeed, it needed not only to be better at some things than either a phone or laptop, it needed to be much better. It was and is.<p>For me the problem of the iPad is that it&#x27;s merely inconsistently better at a slew of entertainment&#x2F;consumption based activities but for everything else it&#x27;s worse than any decent laptop. As even consumption-based workflows may involve intermediate bursts of typing, and just to extend the iPad&#x27;s range into more uses I am tempted to have a keyboard -- but then it almost nears the inconvenience of carrying a laptop.<p>IMO to be revolutionary the iPad should convince you not to buy a laptop, or it should be as light as the kindle so that you would consider reading it Star Trek style for 20-30 minutes per day, as even the iPad mini is a bit weighty. Right now with the focus on iPad Pro and Air I think Apple is going toward the former.
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theshrike79over 5 years ago
I managed to snag an iPad Pro (pre USB-C model) last summer and bought the official Apple keyboard for it.<p>I&#x27;ve been using my MBP less and less ever since. I can cover a good deal of my normal &quot;laptop&quot; activities with the iPad.<p>- I can put the latest CW DC Superhero show I&#x27;m hate-watching on from Plex in picture-in-picture and browse Reddit or Hacker News at the same time - I can use Newsblur to check my RSS feeds, Telegram&#x2F;Discord&#x2F;IRCCloud to chat - The battery lasts me all day, from morning to night - I can even use Blink.sh to log in via ssh&#x2F;mosh to any server to tune some template or adjust script settings<p>The only time I actually pick up my MBP is when I need to do some Serious Coding with a Big Display (or two).<p>Even my commutes are more enjoyable with synced Plex media and Netflix downloads, beats looking at a 5&quot; phone screen.
caconym_over 5 years ago
For me the biggest gap between the iPad and a general purpose computer is the lack of a sensible, simple filesystem abstraction, and the pile of janky and inconsistent UI bullshit they apparently think can replace it. My iPad Pro is great for drawing and writing and browsing the web and watching video content, which are the things I bought it for, but when I use it I don&#x27;t feel in control of my data.<p>It&#x27;s really sad, because I love it as a computing device and the missing pieces are totally arbitrary. It could offer the same user experience it offers now while still giving me the tools I need to have it replace my laptops and desktops.<p>I bought my mom an iPad in 2012 and she is still (!) using it. She loves it. But she has an iMac too, which as far as I can tell she mostly uses to—you guessed it—manage files. Or, at least, that&#x27;s the only part of her workflow that can&#x27;t be hosted on the iPad. 8 years later, that&#x27;s still the case.
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tiffanyhover 5 years ago
It’s interesting how success &amp; potential is defined.<p>iPad generates ~$20B&#x2F;year in revenue with huge margins. [1]<p>If iPad was a standalone business, it be the 156th largest company in the world by revenue (Fortune). [2]<p>How can having a <i>single product</i> where only 155 entire <i>companies</i> are bigger than it, “not live up to its potential”?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sixcolors.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;2019&#x2F;10&#x2F;apple-results-64b-in-revenue-on-record-services-income&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sixcolors.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;2019&#x2F;10&#x2F;apple-results-64b-in-reve...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fortune.com&#x2F;fortune500&#x2F;2019&#x2F;search&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fortune.com&#x2F;fortune500&#x2F;2019&#x2F;search&#x2F;</a>
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thomasflover 5 years ago
The iPad has slowly revolutionized personal computing. After the music production apps became available, including Apples own Garageband, the iPad has become a very common sketching tool for musicians. When the Apple pen and the Procreate became available, the iPad pro also became one of the most used tools for painting and sketching. An iPad pro with Apples keyboard, is more useable for most common day users than most windows based laptops.
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classifiedover 5 years ago
&gt; mistakes that need to be scrapped and replaced, not polished and refined.<p>Jobs&#x27; criticisms may have been a bit abrasive at times, but these kinds of problems seem to indicate that nobody is currently filling that important role at Apple.
wlesieutreover 5 years ago
<i>&gt; Oh, and apps that aren’t in the Dock can’t become the second app in split screen mode. What sense does that limitation make?</i><p>I&#x27;ve heard people say this before, as if there&#x27;s no way to use anything but your permanent dock apps in split screen. But if it&#x27;s not in the Dock, you launch it, and now it&#x27;s in the dock. That&#x27;s why the recent items section on the right side exists.<p>My personal gripe with iOS multitasking is that it&#x27;s easy to make a second instance of an app by dragging and dropping (such as Safari tabs to split screen), but then it&#x27;s not as easy to close the second copy when you&#x27;re done with it. When split screen was a special implementation within Safari, dragging the last tab from one side to the other would automatically collapse that side and bring the remaining one back to full screen. Now it leaves an empty Safari window hanging around.<p>If you want to close that, you have to make one side or the other full screen, open the app switcher, and swipe the empty one up off the top.
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kerrsclydeover 5 years ago
Plenty of iPad use within industry. Using it as more than just a consumption device.<p>Yesterday the guy fixing the mobile traffic lights was using an iPad to configure them &#x2F; My gym gets me to change my membership plan using an iPad within a floor standing cabinet.
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gwbas1cover 5 years ago
&gt; The iPad at 10 is, to me, a grave disappointment.<p>The biggest disappointment to me is that I can&#x27;t buy a Macbook that converts into a tablet. I&#x27;ve never owned a tablet, and my wife never replaced her 1st generation iPad, because there&#x27;s just too much overlap between tablet and phone; and between tablet and laptop.<p>And, as far as multitasking goes: When I do <i>serious</i> work that requires that kind of multitasking, I need a keyboard and mouse. Furthermore, I&#x27;ll probably be sitting in a chair, at a desk, with a giant monitor... Multitasking is just an absurd use case for a &quot;tablet.&quot; Instead, it shows that &quot;tablet&quot; and &quot;laptop&quot; just need to converge to be the same ^%#$ device.<p>Windows tablets might suck, but at least you don&#x27;t have to own two devices!
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broodbucketover 5 years ago
iPads have complete market dominance in the world of the kiddies. I can&#x27;t believe how many there are - big iPads in big cases, young children playing with some game or watching YouTube Kids. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s the market Apple invisioned, but it&#x27;s a hugely successful one regardless.<p>I think judging the iPad based on changes they make for power users is near pointless in terms of its success.
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xixixaoover 5 years ago
The article talks about two different things:<p>1) Whether the iPad is revolutionary, and how in this respect it compares to the iPhone and the Mac.<p>2) iPad’s split-screen UX<p>The two are not linked in a casual relationship imho. I personally never use split screen on my Mac (and of course on my iPhone), but this has not precluded it from being a device I use almost every waking hour.<p>So to address the first point, the reason the iPad is not as revolutionary is because being in the middle of the two revolutionary products, it’s shares the pros and cons of both, in a way that negates each other. So the iPad is not small enough to be truly portable, but not big enough to be the perfect work horse. It will never have the same success and impact on the world, no matter its UX.
gnicholasover 5 years ago
&gt; <i>The iPads Pro outperform MacBooks computationally.</i><p>Off-topic, but it&#x27;s an interesting choice to pluralize &quot;iPads Pro&quot;, especially in a sentence where it could easily be singular (&quot;The iPad Pro outperforms MacBooks computationally&quot;). After all, there aren&#x27;t different tech specs on the different iPads Pro (of the same generation). They just differ in screen size, IIRC.
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DrScientistover 5 years ago
The software is important, but the real reason for the iPad&#x27;s existence is the physical aspects.<p>Form is function.<p>Bigger than phone, touched orientated versus keyboard&#x2F;mouse mac.<p>That&#x27;s also whythe physically &#x27;panic&#x27; home button was very good.<p>Personally the most interesting feature of the iPad these days is the pen - a way of physically interacting with the computer that&#x27;s different.<p>At the end of the day, the &#x27;user interface&#x27; isn&#x27;t just software it&#x27;s physical. Whether it be touch, voice, pen, or keyboard.<p>One of the problems with the more &#x27;advanced&#x27; UI features&#x2F;gestures is that they don&#x27;t anchor in the physical - you have no idea it existed or why the software responded in that way.
GolDDranksover 5 years ago
I bought my first and only tablet, an iPad, two years back. I havent&#x27;t much used it since then. I bet it would be great for reading and watching videos, but the moment I want to type something, I just become needlessly irritated and switch back to my MacBook Pro.<p>It&#x27;s not just typing on a touch screen; that&#x27;s awful, but then I bought a keyboard. But using the Dvorak layout, Scandinavian letters and Japanese input in my daily life makes iPad just not cut it. It&#x27;s not a flexible device like a PC is. I still haven&#x27;t been able to type the way I&#x27;d want to.
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takanoriover 5 years ago
It’s an $11 Billion dollar hardware business that’s double the size of the Mac.<p>IMHO, the biggest innovation is that an enterprise can purchase one of these interest free for ~$20 &#x2F; month (no interest) and get a brand new one in 3 years through Apple’s enterprise sales.<p>Hardware sold as a service. $11B.<p>I think the focus on multitasking misses the real innovation.
sixstringtheoryover 5 years ago
I&#x27;ve used an iPad Pro 10.2&quot; with smart keyboard for 2 years now, trying to shift all my non-iOS-development work to it, with some success. I like using the iPad, and I like using it with multitasking much more than I did before that existed. I think the criticisms in the article have some merit but I don&#x27;t know what better alternatives would be, and didn&#x27;t see any suggested in the article. I assume that Apple has worked very hard and thrown away a lot of less good solutions to arrive where they&#x27;re at with iPadOS thus far.<p>The answer to a lot of this should be &quot;open the Tips app and follow the tutorials,&quot; but they don&#x27;t cover the entire set of possibilities, so a valid criticism would be that the Tips app should be improved.<p>A tip for people that might not know:<p>&gt; apps that aren’t in the Dock can’t become the second app in split screen mode.<p>Not true: on an external keyboard you can execute the same key command you use for Spotlight in macOS: ⌘ + Space, then you can immediately type the name of the app you want, and drag it into multitasking from the results. As Gruber points out with the dual purpose gesture of dragging icons from the dock (either multitasking or removing from dock), there is one here too: if you swipe down in the center of the home screen to activate a search, you can&#x27;t drag those icons into multitasking. It makes sense because there&#x27;s no other app open to multitask with, but the gesture is overloaded nonetheless.<p>A personal bummer lately is that my $150 smart keyboard stopped working, so I&#x27;m rocking a Magic Keyboard with it currently at my desk. The Bluetooth connection story isn&#x27;t perfect, and I don&#x27;t take it around with me, so when I&#x27;m mobile I just have the dead keyboard cover.
notlukeskyover 5 years ago
The iPad is there for mass consumption as primarily a consumption tool (pun intended). Power users following the aptly named power law already know the tricks to use it as a production tool like split screen and multitasking etc... the masses will not invest the time to learn those tricks because they don’t need it and their willful ignorance is bliss.<p>The good thing that the article points out is that Apple’s historical business model (4.99 price cap) limited productivity tools by capping the prices that could be charged through the app store. Fair point there. Apple can still breathe life going forward for developers by rebooting the developer ecosystem. 10 years on the tablet has just arrived for productivity. That is still a fraction of iPad consumers. Prosumers are a minority and the only ones demanding landscape view and split screen apps.<p>I work for an IAM consultancy and the password manager we recommend to our clients and that I use is SAASPASS and one of the reasons is that it supports multitasking, landscape view and split screen. Split screen is great for Authenticator codes and password management. But the masses probably don’t care at all for these features. Although AutoFill has solved some of these UX issues with most apps and websites.<p>If anyone is interested in an iPad friendly Authenticator and Password Manager see here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saaspass.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saaspass.com&#x2F;</a>
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twstedover 5 years ago
I agree completely with Gruber&#x27;s analysis:<p>the multi-tasking, drag&amp;drop, split-screen interface is very complex and confusing even for me, who have been using the iPad for ten years.
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xg15over 5 years ago
(warning, rant follows)<p>I wonder if the trend to confusing designs has something to do with the recent rise of &quot;use case centered&quot; UI design.<p>My impression is that many graphical designs in the past were designed by coming up with certain fundamental abstractions or metaphors first and then integrating the different functions of the software into it: That way, we got windows and standard widgets which function the same way everywhere, no matter which particular application makes use of them. We also have abstractions like &quot;files&quot; or &quot;desktop icons&quot; that a user can interact with in a consistent way independent of application.<p>This way of design has pitfalls: You can choose the wrong metaphors and paint yourself into a corner, you can overvalue consistency to the point the UI becomes cumbersome to use or you can find that a new feature doesn&#x27;t fit into your abstractions and you have to shoehorn it in. However, what this design guarantees is that the user has some basic tools to orient themselves, without needing to consult a manual for everything or remember some random onboarding popup that appeared a week ago when the user had completely other things on their mind.<p>I feel today, UI design has shifted away from common abstractions to the point it&#x27;s almost seen as an anti-pattern. Instead, the design process is started with assembling an exhaustive list of &quot;use cases&quot; or &quot;user stories&quot;: The app is supposed to enable the user to do the tasks on the list - and <i>only</i> those tasks. Then, every item on the list is passed, one-by-one to the UI team, who add a button, gesture or other affordance to perform <i>exactly</i> that task. Finally, users are watched via telemetry to see if they are using the app as intended and if any additional tasks must be added via the above procedure.<p>This method of design does have advantages: The most common tasks are easy to access, even if they are, by themselves, complex procedures involving different components (such as &quot;make a photo, color-correct it, upload it to Twitter and refer to it in a tweet&quot;).<p>On the other hand, everything that falls outside ymthe immediate attention of the developers becomes ridiculously hard to do or even impossible: Take the above photo, but <i>zip</i> it, then send it in an email? Sorry, you need an app for that. Take a photo, color-correct it and send it to mastodon? Sorry, not integrated. Etc, etc.<p>To be honest, I have no idea if modern UI design really is done like this, but it very often feels that way. I really wonder if a return to some well-dosed consistency wouldn&#x27;t improve a whole lot of things both for casual <i>and</i> power users.
throw0101aover 5 years ago
The iPad (and tablets in general) have really changed the game when it comes to flying. So many private pilots use e-charts nowadays: I&#x27;d love to see the sales figures on paper charts over the last decade.<p>Even commercial crews (CPL, ATPL) are using them, and no longer have to lug around booklets.<p>For &#x27;redundancy&#x27; people often don&#x27;t use paper, but have multiple electronic devices as well.
ibn_khaldunover 5 years ago
The main gripe of this article seems to be focused on a single issue. But it is a valid point. But it is sort of strange to see this article boil down to the author&#x27;s displeasure with just this one issue. To be honest I never was aware that you could only pull apps from your dock into split screen because I really only use those apps for that function. There is a comment buried toward the bottom that suggests a very nice solution to the problem.<p>There is also another comment buried toward the bottom questioning why everything has to be &quot;revolutionary&quot;, which I agree with. I find that the iPad is a cozy fit for most people&#x27;s personal and professional workflows and the fact that it&#x27;s Apple keeps everything cohesive. What revolution is it supposed to spark? It is a companion, a bridge, so to speak, between two pieces of equipment that the author has already acknowledges as &quot;revolutionary&quot; on their own.
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zapzupnzover 5 years ago
Something I haven&#x27;t seen in the comments yet: do we think that Apple now referring to iPadOS by a separate name means future releases will slowly-but-surely (in typical iterative Apple fashion) morph the iPad experience to address not only Gruber&#x27;s complaints but some of our own?<p>I&#x27;m actually surprised by a lot of HN&#x27;s failure of imagination — &quot;I can&#x27;t imagine why you would want an iPad when you could use an xyz&quot;, often translating into &quot;I don&#x27;t believe an iPad could <i>ever</i> become abc&quot;.<p>And yet, against all odds and despite its relative decline in sales, the iPad marches forward, stands strong despite its flaws, and defies the naysayers of 2010 and 2020.<p>To give my own answer to my question: I prefer optimism over pessimism, myself.
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mark_l_watsonover 5 years ago
The solution is simple: ability to set in System Preferences whether to enable split screen and floating second window.<p>Personally, I really like the split window support but to be honest I had to practice the gestures for opening and closing second windows.<p>Off topic, but my big complaint about my iPad Pro is that the physical buttons for volume control, etc. are placed differently than my iPhone 11 Pro. This always makes me pause when switching devices because I like to think of my iPhone and iPad to sort-of be the same device as far as apps and most use cases. Apple, place the hardware controls in the same locations. Also, the menu bar on Safari is different on the two devices. I wish Apple would fix that also.
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nalloover 5 years ago
I actually use iPad for coding nowadays. It is of course slower than using a keyboard but also a quite relaxing and fun way of programming.
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octokattover 5 years ago
Industry hasn&#x27;t caught up yet with the iPad, because it&#x27;s a very different tool.<p>But you can see it start to happen. An iPad is becoming the default point of sale system in a lot of places. My wife works with autistic kids; he doesn&#x27;t have a computer, he has an iPad so he can go from recording behavioral data to YouTube in a fluid motion.<p>The iPad stumbled because it was supposed to be a consumer device, and then developers and users realized it filled a niche for a lot of creation tasks, and Apple has been playing catch-up ever since.
gdubsover 5 years ago
Can’t believe it’s been 10 years. The iPad launched my app development career. My girlfriend at the time (now my wife) bought the first generation iPad for me so that I could finish developing an app. I felt that I had missed the wave with iPhone apps, and the iPad was a new opportunity. The result was Polychord.<p>From day 1, the iPad was a great format for music making. But it’s fun to look back and remember that back then it didn’t have MIDI, and Audiobus would be some time to follow.
MengerSpongeover 5 years ago
I can&#x27;t believe I&#x27;m the first to metion LiquidText! It&#x27;s the reason I bought an iPad pro, and more than a year later I don&#x27;t regret it.<p>If you have to collect information from a bunch of disparate documents, make comments, and share your collected thoughts, LiquidText is the absolute best.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;liquidtext&#x2F;id922765270" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;liquidtext&#x2F;id922765270</a>
pintxoover 5 years ago
As no one has brought it up yet. Playing civilization on the 12 inch iPad Pro is awesome. Unfortunately it&#x27;s a drain on the battery.
d--bover 5 years ago
&gt; “It’s just a big iPhone” was the most common initial criticism<p>&gt; The iPad has been a spectacular success, and to tens of millions it is a beloved part of their daily lives, but it has, to date, fallen short of revolutionary.<p>Yes, well it has fallen short of revolutionary, probably because it&#x27;s just a big iphone, (or a laptop without keyboard). There was no new paradigm here.
trey-jonesover 5 years ago
Ten years ago this was a good reminder that what I want is not necessarily what the majority want. Make that &quot;definitely not what the majority want&quot;. I thought the iPad was a stupid idea that I had no use for. I still feel mostly that way (though I think it could be handy for easy page turns in music).<p>Obviously I was wrong about it being a stupid idea, and I&#x27;m happy to own that. I&#x27;ve built several apps specific to iPad over the years, and I&#x27;m going to start another one today.<p>I _do_ also think that iOS has fallen behind Android in several important ways in the last 2 or 3 years. Not in every way, but things like the Keyboard on iOS drive me crazy. Can&#x27;t speak for iPad OS. Today will be my first experience with that.
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readhnover 5 years ago
Awkwardly turns 10? Poor title choice!<p>Every household in USA has one ipad or wants to have one. (360million total sold in usa - so 1.1 ipad per person).<p>360,000,000 ipads x $400 (example average price) = $144B in sales !!!<p>There is nothing Awkward about that. They crushed it!<p>ongrats to Apple for making a great product for media consumers!
julienb_seaover 5 years ago
The core problem with ipad is it&#x27;s not going to be able to compete with a laptop + desk setup for productivity. Laptops are complicated machines, and we take for granted the extent to which we are attuned to using a laptop. The speed with which we can fly around a laptop and get things done is staggering. Ipad has too many limitations in UX to really compete. You can in theory accomplish pretty much all the same things, and it might be more fun and more pleasant of an experience. But for complicated work, with a variety of applications, how can an ipad compete with 3 large screens, a full keyboard and trackpad, and a full suite of consistent well supported hotkeys?
davedxover 5 years ago
The iPad could have been a new Dynabook. Alan Kay was actually fairly impressed with it when it came out. Unfortunately I agree with Gruber, it has really failed to live up to expectations. Missing a hardware keyboard is quite a big deal I think.
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w-mover 5 years ago
&gt; The iPad has been a spectacular success, and to tens of millions it is a beloved part of their daily lives, but it has, to date, fallen short of revolutionary.<p>Why does everything have to be revolutionary? Pretty much everybody I know who has an iPad love using their device. It&#x27;s a wonderful tool for media and web consumption, it just works for that use case very, very well. It can be used effortlessly, for multiple hours a day. Does it really have to do more?<p>Personally I just don&#x27;t use split-screen apps on the iPad, but I&#x27;m not the least inconvenienced by the feature being around, behind some strange gestures I don&#x27;t really bothered to learn.
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dangusover 5 years ago
I’m surprised that John Gruber hasn’t just turned off split screen for his mom:<p>Settings &gt; General &gt; Multitasking and Dock &gt; Allow Multiple Apps (Off)<p>&gt; But if I could go back to the pre-split-screen, pre-drag-and-drop interface I would.<p>I think you can, check your settings.
brailsafeover 5 years ago
As far as I can tell, visual artists love the ipad pro. I still have my ipad 3, and it serves it&#x27;s purpose for reading content and looking at stuff. I&#x27;ve done the same on an Ipad pro, and damn that screen is smooth, but can&#x27;t think of anything to use it for that would remotely permit me to spend the $$$$$ on it. The software gets in my way and is just bad. Somewhat pathetically, Safari still doesn&#x27;t support WebGl2 either. The cost approximates a pretty good gear setup for any other more constructive hobby.
icanhackitover 5 years ago
The iPad as a portable computer suffers from the same problem cameras do - the best camera is the one you have with you, and in that same way the best computer is often the phone in your pocket.
Causality1over 5 years ago
I&#x27;m in love with the idea of the ipad&#x2F;tablet but they just don&#x27;t work for me in practice. Either I&#x27;m out and don&#x27;t have anything on me but my phone or I&#x27;m at home and already have my computer in front of me. Ipads just don&#x27;t work as replacement computers for me. I can&#x27;t manage my media and document archives. I can&#x27;t create bootable USB drives. I can&#x27;t maintain a folder full of installers for necessary software. I just don&#x27;t feel in control on a tablet.
obelosover 5 years ago
Sure, getting apps into multitasking mode is hard, but have you tried to get an app _out_ of multitasking? Especially a “Slide Over” window? Just when you think you&#x27;ve banished it, you open the host app again and the slide over app revivifies. It&#x27;s maddening. Every time I accidentally get an app into this mode I have to search the support docs for the magic sequence to make the window finally go away. I love my iPad, but a couple aspects are unambiguously terrible UX.
hyperpalliumover 5 years ago
An ipad&#x2F;tablet is halfway between a laptop and a phpne, amd worse than either. For a while, phones got bigger (phablets), but any bigger and they don&#x27;t fit a pocket, nor usable one-handed. The <i>convenience</i> of a phone form-factor is overwhelming.<p>Rhe next big thing going to be VR&#x2F;AR&#x2F;glasses, but have stalled. It might be foldable displays, but I think they&#x27;ll suffer the same fate as tablets, for the same reasons. Convenience is kimg.
Andrew_nenakhovover 5 years ago
Fun thing is, it is very easy to do a convenient multitasking on iPad that a toddler would understand:<p>Just make a multitask button in slide up menu or dock, which, when press, would present a user with his own home screen and an overlay titled &quot;Select an app&quot;, maybe with slight clarification, &quot;the launched app will be run next to your current app&quot;. Maybe not the best solution, but way better than the current one
ArmandGrilletover 5 years ago
I always wonder if ipadOS should have a permanent dock or not, it would reduce the screen space but makes split-view much more discoverable.
SllXover 5 years ago
Reality is actually more exciting and more boring. Apple sold about $20B worth of iPads last year alone and it has a sizable install base for all these services Apple is pushing: TV+, Arcade, News+, Apple Music, iCloud, etc.<p>There’s a lot to criticize about the software, it is actually very easy to criticize the software for not doing the things you want it to do because it seems like it <i>ought</i> to be able to, and there is obviously a better way to do the thing you want to do if Apple would only do X, Y, and Z and stop doing A and B to hold it back.<p>Here’s where reality gets really boring though: iPads are <i>only</i> tablets, and <i>only</i> of the stuff in your bag, leave on a table or have it permanently docked in some kind of kiosk variety. That lends itself to being a bit better at some applications than others, but there‘a some applications it will always be downright inferior to compared to a laptop or phone. It’s not going to fit in my pocket better than my phone, and it’s not the entire self-contained package that my laptop is, nor does it have the benefit of always being plugged into a wall socket being able to draw essentially unlimited power that my desktop has. I could try to replicate some of the benefits of those devices with some creative planning and a big enough pile of money with some mixed success, but in exchange for not being as good for certain applications, it is absolutely top tier for reading and drawing. It’s all about the trade offs you are willing to make.<p>If what a tablet is better at is more important to you than what a laptop is better at, and the few things you would prefer to do on a laptop can still be done on a tablet, you <i>might</i> make the tradeoff to spend more money to have both, or you <i>might</i> make the tradeoff to save some money and only have the tablet. Neither is a bad choice to make.<p>Putting it that way is boring though, and it doesn’t play into the narrative that we’re only going to have one or the other at some far flung point in the future and tablets are the predestined winner of that zero sum game, you know, just like how we <i>only</i> have GUIs these days and positively <i>no one</i> uses what we once called the command-line interface.<p>In retrospect the above comment is less a direct response to Gruber’s article, and more a response to a broad swath of sentiments expressed here in this thread and across the part of the web that spends too much time talking about Apple. It should be understood as such anyway.
mensetmanusmanover 5 years ago
I have been using some version of an iPad since the day it came out. Version 1 is still alive and kicking and being used by our 3 year old, so far, it has been the most robust :)<p>Pros: biometrics &#x2F; security &#x2F; immediately usable to check email<p>Cons: software has started going all SAAS and Apple allowed developers to upgrade and break previous versions to force users on to SAAS versions
tenantover 5 years ago
Nobody I know bothers with a tablet anymore. Everything they formerly did on the tablet they now do on their phone. And most of the iPhone users I know have now switched to Android, mostly Samsungs. Myself being a bit of a cheapskate have a motorola moto and I think it&#x27;s great. Tim Cook is a very lucky man. He earns an eye watering salary, for what?
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bnjmsover 5 years ago
Lots of good discussion here about the state of iPad tablets.<p>My SO is returning to school and wants a tablet for school. She likes her iPhone. Is the iPad ready to be a primary note taking solution? I have seen its note taking app used to great effect but how is external keyboard support? Does anyone use an ipad in uni as their primary input device?
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victor106over 5 years ago
Well written article. I love Gruber&#x27;s realistic take on Apple more than when it seems like he is a fanboy.<p>&gt;and apps that aren’t in the Dock can’t become the second app in split screen mode. What sense does that limitation make?<p>I think that hits the nail on the head. I just couldn&#x27;t believe that somehow Apple settled on this UI interaction for multitasking.
fortran77over 5 years ago
Imagine how powerful an iPad could be if you could run GNU&#x2F;Linux well on it:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ipadlinux.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ipadlinux.org&#x2F;</a><p>Instead of iOS, Arch GNU&#x2F;Linux! It&#x27;s too bad that even old iPads haven&#x27;t been figured out enough to bring first-class GNU&#x2F;Linux support to these machines.
clircleover 5 years ago
As a statistician, and collector of statistics textbooks, the iPad had made my life (marriage) much better! I can download all the books I want, and have a (typically) better reading experience on the iPad, and I don&#x27;t need to expand the number of book shelves in my apartment. Big win for me!
mikehall314over 5 years ago
I don&#x27;t think I can substantively disagree with anything said here. Though I can think of a few places where iPad has revolutionised things; most notably point-of-sale. Especially for small businesses, I commonly see iPad and other tablet form factors used for retail point of sale.
garrickvanburenover 5 years ago
Within weeks, I sold the iPad v1 I bought the day it was released and I derided the iPad from that day on.<p>Fast forward to today, iPad Pro has been my primary device for pushing 2 years.<p>With a keyboard and multi-tasking it’s a far more flexible, collaborative, and portable compute experience compared to my MacBook.
theriddlrover 5 years ago
It&#x27;s good value for money due to its lifespan. My family&#x27;s iPad 2 is 8 years old and still going strong. Daily game-playing and web surfing sites still compatible with the old version of Safari. Whereas my Samsung Note tablet died after 2 years and wouldn&#x27;t charge.
dirkthemanover 5 years ago
Our iPad 2 (bought new in 2011) is still being used on a daily basis by our kids. Battery life is still more than sufficient and it&#x27;s not too slow to run some games, YouTube or Netflix. I think it&#x27;s the longest we&#x27;ve done with a single electronic device ever!
frankzenover 5 years ago
I hear people junk talk the iPad all the time but I love mine. I rarely open a computer at home because of the iPad. A lot of times I don&#x27;t even turn on my TV and just use it as my mini TV. It&#x27;s basically a laptop in a truer sense of the word IMHO.
egypturnashover 5 years ago
God I hate the multitasking, all I ever did with it was accidentally open Safari links in a new window I couldn’t get rid of instead of open them in a new tab when I mis-tapped. I turned that <i>right off</i> about a day after updating.
audiodudeover 5 years ago
&gt; How would anyone ever figure out how to split-screen multitask on the iPad if they didn’t already know how to do it?<p>Or if this article hadn&#x27;t just taught me how to do it. Be right back, about to go multitask on my ipad for the first time...
chadlaviover 5 years ago
&gt; But the Mac’s “When do I click, when do I double-click?” issue has confused untold millions of non-expert users for decades.<p>I mean. Does it really, still? If so, that&#x27;s horrifying as a technologist and sad.
ngcc_hkover 5 years ago
I recently bought 3 ipad (and two e-ink one) as a replacement of book and reference. The ipad is great as it can be used and sync ... it works great with my MacBook Pro.<p>It is a good part of the ecosystem.
shams93over 5 years ago
It&#x27;s become a platform for music production. A lot of music apps like beatmaker3 only exist on the iPad. It&#x27;s replaced the computer for me as my daw system for music production.
CivBaseover 5 years ago
&gt; Turns out, “just a big iPhone” was a fantastic idea for a new product - music to tens of millions of iPhone users’ ears.<p>Was it?<p>I&#x27;ve never personally been interested in tablets, but my perception is that they&#x27;re not especially popular. Over the last few years, I&#x27;ve rarely seen them being used for anything other than mobile video machines for little kids. A lot of people <i>bought</i> the iPad, but very few people appear to regularly <i>use</i> one.<p>I&#x27;m aware that the iPad extremely useful for some people. I&#x27;m just not convinced it&#x27;s the breakout success this article paints it as. My personal experience and observations show that it is more of a niche product.
ruskover 5 years ago
Any chance we could get a Ctrl-F type function?<p>I&#x27;m enjoying the mental training of learning to scan text for keywords myself, but from time to time this is a feature that I miss ...
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sneakover 5 years ago
&gt; <i>The iPads Pro outperform MacBooks computationally.</i><p>How quickly Gruber falls in line with the propaganda machine the moment that official guidance (Airpods Pro) comes out. :D
bsaulover 5 years ago
ipad + youtube ( or twitch) has replaced TV for many people, and ipad is definitely a game changer in some niche professional markets where autonomy and keyboardless makes it a true alternative to paper (any people taking notes while standing).<p>i think the most lacking features are related to pencil interactions ( which still can&#x27;t be used to enter text in iOS text fields easily), but i feel it&#x27;s really slowly getting there
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altitudinousover 5 years ago
An article written by a technologist. Only 1% use multitasking.<p>Software is absolutely the strength.<p>The extraordinary social impact of iPad on education, bringing technology and books to the masses, especially the <i>non technical</i>, education and entertainment to the young (who can use this device even before they can read), the elderly and most importantly the enablement of the disabled are the greatest achievements of the iPad. This is the device of the 2010&#x27;s.<p>Focussing on something like multitasking in the OS is really narrow and misses why this device even exists.
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totaldude87over 5 years ago
One recent thing that i hate about latest iPadOS is the automatic readable mode for websites.. you cant just put readable mode on all sites :|
40acresover 5 years ago
iPad is an excellent consumption device, I never quite saw the appeal in productivity based add-ons. A few years ago my MBA died and I was quite slow in getting a replacement due to financial commitments. As a cord cutter w&#x2F;o a TV my iPad was my main source of video entertainment and I was surprised that I didn&#x27;t miss my Air as much as previously thought.
pcurveover 5 years ago
part of the problem is, apple is refusing to make the basic window bar control needed to facilitate multi-tasking and exposing its funcionality, because that would create interface clutter and reduce perceived simplicity of the UI.<p>Instead they&#x27;re inventing all sorts of hidden gesture based workarounds.<p>They&#x27;re no longer targeting ipad for new users.
Four8Fiveover 5 years ago
I gave up doing any meaningful, multi-tasking work on the iPad. Now it just sits as a $1000 Netflix &#x2F; Email machine.
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esch89over 5 years ago
Good article. Shows the importance of being able to steer in a different direction + change despite past successes.
myt6foreover 5 years ago
John Gruber craves the power of keyboard macros on his iPad. He apparently thinks that&#x27;s not possible as iPad&#x27;s main power is one-state mode (and it truly is a remarkable tool that way). There&#x27;s always a learning curve with artificial interfaces. Standard way to bridge this is use of metaphors. The problem with iOs on iPad is that iPhone was it&#x27;s metaphor...
jxdxbxover 5 years ago
Slide Over is one of the best features out there. And it’s as simple as can be. You get what amounts to a mini iPhone available on command. And split screen is not only very useful, I think it’s a fundamentally better multitasking model that the traditional desktop OS for screens under 23” or so.<p>I agree that adding apps to multitasking seems to baffle people. But this seems like it can
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dredmorbiusover 5 years ago
The tablet form-factor, battery-life, screen display, and wifi connectivity make it a potentially incredible tool -- yes, between a phone and a laptop, but also able to instantly convert between protrait and landscape modes, be tossed in a bag, propped up on a lap.<p>With the addition of a folio-type keyboard and self-supporting tip-up mode, there&#x27;s little the device cannot do from a set of basic laptop functionality. And yet it&#x27;s still a fully-capable touch device.<p>Where failure enters is in the accessories and peripherals (especially keyboards), and of course, the OS and apps.<p>At which point I think I&#x27;m going to end up re-writing the rant I&#x27;d composed nearly three years ago, so I&#x27;ll just link it:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ello.co&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;post&#x2F;lqgtwy_rhsfbdh5cdxb1rq" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ello.co&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;post&#x2F;lqgtwy_rhsfbdh5cdxb1rq</a><p>TL;DR:<p>1. Standardise form factors so keyboards Just Freaking Fit.<p>2. Offer a true and robust shell and Linux userland, with filesystem access.<p>3. Provide real apps with full keyboard support.<p>4. Uncripple the OS.<p>I&#x27;m looking at PineTab and Purism&#x27;s tablet offerings with interest.<p>2-in-1 laptop designs ... <i>might</i> work, though the additional hardware and fragility strike me as large liabilities.
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tuananhover 5 years ago
ipad pro is such a nice device but the iPadOS is still so limited.<p>if ipadOS is 50% capable as macOS, the ipad pro would be a dream machine for web developer.
jedbergover 5 years ago
Almost every comment in this thread can be summarized thusly:<p>&quot;I wish I could install my own OS&#x2F;Apps on my iPad to solve the problems I have&quot;.
zweepover 5 years ago
I remember discovering iPad split screen more than a year into owning one. It was like magic, then I didn&#x27;t know what I had done to invoke it. I started trying random stuff looking for the incantations and eventually gave up and Googled it.
egdodover 5 years ago
My biggest annoyance with my iPad is accidentally opening links in a new Safari <i>window.</i> Sometimes that happens when I’m just scrolling and didn’t mean to open the link at all. So now you have multiple Safari windows that are completely undiscoverable. To switch between windows, you have to swipe up slowly and pick the one you want.<p>I have literally never wanted multiple windows of the same app on my iPad. But it keeps happening.<p>I’m a computer guy. I shudder to think what this is like for my grandmother.
swileyover 5 years ago
I’d say the iPad is the symbol of everything wrong with consumer computing devices, I really hate it. The most upsetting thing is that I’m not sure that’s true, look at the cheap Windows PCs and Android phones: they’re full frontal active assaults on the users! It’s all terrible!
oflannabhraover 5 years ago
Gruber has some good points, but I think in some ways he misses the forest for the trees.<p>The iPad is essentially, at this point, a two-mode device. There is the simple paradigm, screen-as-app mode inherited from the iPhone. Then, for power users, there is the multitasking paradigm with Flyover, Split Screen, Drag &amp; Drop.<p>The multitasking paradigm is <i>not</i> meant to co-exist with the simple one, and it is not meant to be discoverable. I agree with Gruber that there is work to do here to make it better, but iPad <i>can&#x27;t</i> drop the simple paradigm, because many people use it that way. So anything more that the iPad offers has to build on top of and integrate with that paradigm.<p>That is really a huge challenge. It&#x27;s not often that challenges like that come along. In desktop computing, lots of things are un-intuitive or at least not intuitively discoverable, such as right-clicking for context menus or keyboard shortcuts. We all don&#x27;t consider them that way because we are so used to them, and we almost never meet someone who hasn&#x27;t ever had to interact with them the first time.<p>I&#x27;d also argue that the simple paradigm iPhone and iPad offer has made computing more approachable to great swaths of people (not even considering things like cost, etc).<p>Yes, iPad multitasking is not perfect. But I think they are at least on the right track, and I am thankful they have protected that approachability.
aj7over 5 years ago
Multitasking? Huh?<p>You’re missing the iPad business model. You’re not allowed to do anything (except maybe wash the dishes or get dressed) when the iPad is showing an ad that gets you free something.<p>True multitasking would break the business model of thousands of sites.
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