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Ending the Era of the U.S. Survey Foot

104 pointsby amjaegerover 5 years ago

13 comments

p1mrxover 5 years ago
&gt; In 1959, the relationship of the foot to the meter was officially refined as 1 foot = 0.304 8 meter exactly.<p>We can thank one man for this: Carl Edvard Johansson from Sweden. When making gauge blocks, he decided to round off the inch to exactly 25.4mm, and people around the world used his blocks to manufacture everything. The 1959 change just reflected what industry was already doing.<p>- <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mitutoyo.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2013&#x2F;07&#x2F;E12016-History-of-The-Gage-Block.pdf#page=8" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;mitutoyo.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2013&#x2F;07&#x2F;E12016-Histor...</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;books.google.com&#x2F;books?id=3rUaAQAAMAAJ&amp;lpg=PA293&amp;ots=hiqJuRiYSM&amp;pg=PA293" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;books.google.com&#x2F;books?id=3rUaAQAAMAAJ&amp;lpg=PA293&amp;ots...</a>
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opwieurposiuover 5 years ago
As an example of a problem that can occur: Client wants to survey the elevations of a parcel of land for building a house. The surveyor goes out and collects data with gps survey equipment, which produces a .csv file of northing,easting,and elevation values relative to some National Geodetic Survey benchmark. The engineer imports this .csv into his cad software, produces a grading plan .csv file. The earthmoving contractor imports the grading plan into his software and grades the site.<p>Client gets house built, moves in and discovers that the front yard turns into a swamp after every rain.<p>Somewhere in the chain of importing and exporting .csv files, software A was using survey feet and software B was using international feet.<p>This can also cause problems like structures built in the wrong spot, fences built on neighbors land, etc.
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seancolemanover 5 years ago
I actually learned of the difference between the U.S. Survey Foot and the International Foot while working on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plantpredict.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plantpredict.com</a>. For years we had infrequent but bizarre unit-conversion bugs. Calculations literally weren&#x27;t adding up. We assumed it was related to precision rounding since numeric input fields showed rounded values. It turns out the imperial-to-metric feet conversion factor we picked was 1 of 2 choices, and we picked wrong!
yathernover 5 years ago
If anyone else is curious - the &quot;US Survey Foot&quot; was 609nm larger than the US International Foot. Or, 0.0002% Larger.
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DoofusOfDeathover 5 years ago
The article left me confused about what it means to have a legally binding redefinition of a term.<p>Does this mean that all existing, legally binding contracts are to be reinterpreted using the new definition of &quot;foot&quot;?<p>Does it mean that any <i>new</i> legal document (contract, legislation, etc.) that uses the term &quot;foot&quot; without further clarification shall be assumed to mean this new definition of &quot;foot&quot;?
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alleycat5000over 5 years ago
A good overview on NSRS can be found below, pretty interesting read if you&#x27;re into datums.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.esri.com&#x2F;about&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;arcuser&#x2F;moving-from-static-spatial-reference-systems-in-2022&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.esri.com&#x2F;about&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;arcuser&#x2F;moving-from-stat...</a>
Animatsover 5 years ago
Fortunately, the inch is defined as 0.0254 meter exactly. So we have consistency for the really important units.
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jessaustinover 5 years ago
Thank you &#x27;amjaeger for removing the local-TV-news-level attempted pun from the headline.
skaover 5 years ago
Ah, the joy of standards.
alamortsubiteover 5 years ago
If someone had told me this statement was part of a Monty Python script, I&#x27;d likely have believed them.
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hadlockover 5 years ago
Mildly surprising that we are not just using meters at this point.
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DeepYogurtover 5 years ago
Imagine it being 2020 and not using the metric system.
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jackfoxyover 5 years ago
I knew about the survey foot because both the l00&#x27; tape measures I have are in survey feet. Messed me up on a home construction project about 13 years back. It was then I learned there are 2 differing feet definitions.
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