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After a livestreamed suicide, TikTok waited to call police

54 pointsby crivabeneover 5 years ago

7 comments

cjover 5 years ago
This (again) highlights the need for tech companies to take responsibility for what happens on their platform. And it probably won&#x27;t happen without increased regulation.<p>Imagine you build a real-world football stadium. Then, you open the doors up to the public for free with minimal restrictions or rules for how the space is used.<p>You brand the stadium as a &quot;platform&quot; and you invite the public to treat it as such. 6 months later you have people doing drugs on one side of the stadium, holding a white supremacy rally at the other end of the stadium, and then a group of people in the bleachers playing russian roulette with the occasional casualty.<p>The police eventually track down the owner of the stadium. The owner says &quot;Yes, I own the stadium, it&#x27;s my property, but sorry Mr. Police, the stadium is a Platform for free expression. I have no control what the public does in there.&quot;<p>--<p>Introducing new regulations is usually an unpopular suggestion. It raises the barrier of entry for competitors. It limits the market to players who can afford to comply.<p>But at a certain point, IMO we should stop giving tech companies a free pass just because they&#x27;re a &quot;platform&quot; that&#x27;s &quot;too large to moderate&quot;.
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tomatocracyover 5 years ago
This article doesn&#x27;t mention that there is good evidence that publicity surrounding high profile suicides often leads others who are at risk to attempt suicide too. Thats why (along with respect for families) suicides are often described more obliquely as &#x27;x has died&#x27; when the deaths are reported.<p>Ensuring that these types of incidents have as low a profile in the press as possible may well have saved lives.
jennyyangover 5 years ago
This article sounds skewed against TikTok. Was the police never contacted by anyone about the suicide? Maybe the police were already contacted? This is a big question that the article leaves out that makes it sound like it&#x27;s only TikTok who is responsible for calling the police.
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dredmorbiusover 5 years ago
The principle failing here seems to be a lack of a prepared plan of action for such events, and confusion within the TikTok offices as to how specifically to respond.<p>When you are dealing with The Public and public activities, at scale and volume, you&#x27;ve got to be prepared for such actions.<p>This means not only detection (which functioned poorly), but response.<p>- Contact first responders and emergency services.<p>- Disable harmful, inappropriate, or disturbing content.<p>- A set of prepared communications for specific circumstances (and adapatable to others) such that you&#x27;re <i>not</i> scrambling to put together language under a crisis situation.<p>It&#x27;s worth noting that with networks such as Facebook and Google (the late unlamented G+, YouTube) having literally <i>billions</i> of users, simple actuarial statistics mean that <i>tens of thousands</i> of accounts are likely to represent deaths on any given day. Contingency planning simply <i>has</i> to account for more than puppies and rainbows.<p>During my own time on G+, at least two of the thousand of so people I followed closely, both within a relatively close circle, took their own lives. One was a complete shock, though he&#x27;d been acting somewhat oddly (purging activity and accounts, then restoring them) over preceding months. The other had made threats over the course of a year or so, including a previous instance in which I&#x27;d tried frantically to find a way to alert local authorities thousands of km away. The first time there was a intervention. The second, not. Thankfully, in both cases the evidence wasn&#x27;t a stream, but silence.<p>I followed up as best I could with several Googlers at the time. There&#x27;s frustratingly little which can be done, though some capabilities were offered.<p>TikTok&#x27;s response here strikes me more as simply poor planning, and the <i>Intercept</i>&#x27;s criticisms perhaps unduly harsh. Though yes, forsight, planning, <i>drilling of those plans</i>, and an ever-so-slightly less self-serving slant to the response, would be preferred.<p><i>Requiescat in pace</i>, Dieter and Dawn.
stronglikedanover 5 years ago
Sounds like they did the right thing. The police couldn&#x27;t have helped by the time the company was aware of the post. Certainly at least <i>one</i> of his fans had already called them anyway.
Grustafover 5 years ago
I just heard today that tik tok is libe moderating its content, perhaps they weren’t doing tgat back then?
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xerox13sterover 5 years ago
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