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'Ghost ship' washes up on Irish coast

128 pointsby RijilVover 5 years ago

10 comments

ChuckMcMover 5 years ago
One wonders if you could drop a battery operated GPS beacon reporting by satellite on these things to report back their position once a day once it has been abandoned. Something like that should be able to run for a couple of years at least.<p>Maritime salvage law is always interesting as it feels like it was mostly written in the 1600 and 1700&#x27;s :-)
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joe_the_userover 5 years ago
Basically, it&#x27;s a race-to-the-bottom as far as responsibility for the externalities [1] of ship-based transportation goes. Why does Bolivia, a land-locked, third world nations &quot;have one of the largest commercial fleets in the world&quot;[2]. If responsibility for the negative parts of shipping can be shifted indefinitely, it means it never goes into costs, which facilitates trade and &quot;wage arbitrage&quot; [3].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Externality" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Externality</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Flag_of_convenience" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Flag_of_convenience</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Global_labor_arbitrage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Global_labor_arbitrage</a>
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Animatsover 5 years ago
Well, Ireland still has a Receiver of Wrecks. It&#x27;s their problem now.<p>Any of the big salvage companies, Titan or Smit or Mammoet, can deal with such a wreck if paid to do so. It&#x27;s expensive, but routine. Ireland has local salvage companies, too. Once it&#x27;s decided who pays the bill, one of them will probably be brought into deal with the mess.
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NwmGover 5 years ago
if anyone is interested in this topic of how these things happen and the general lawlessness of the seas due to tragedy of the commons I highly recommend Outlaw Ocean by Ian Urbina
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_bxg1over 5 years ago
&gt; Various authorities had become aware of its aimless drift around the world. It was last spotted in September 2019 by a British Royal Navy ship.<p>I wonder if the mythological archetype of the &quot;ghost ship&quot; originated from cases like this: unidentified, unmanned ships roaming the seas on their own, in a time before there was a global record of abandoned ships. Doesn&#x27;t take a huge leap of the imagination to assume they&#x27;re crewed by ghosts.
mothsonaslothover 5 years ago
On coastal Scotland we get all sorts of things washing up thanks to the Gulf Stream; from the ubiquitous coconut, to political placards from Jamaica.
LeifCarrotsonover 5 years ago
&gt; Normally, damaged or sunken ships remain the property of their owners, who are responsible for securing a solution...<p>Sounds like that was written on behalf of public companies who imagined they&#x27;d always want to assert their ownership rights. It was not written while mindful of the possibility of anonymous LLCs who have a salvage bill, an environmental problem, and rescue operations expenses tied to the ship and would rather it sank in the middle of the ocean...
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pvaldesover 5 years ago
Saving dismantling expenses like a pro. Trow it into the nature and now is problem of another people.
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BetaCygniover 5 years ago
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iamthebotover 5 years ago
Can&#x27;t they just ask the crew who the owner is?
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