Depending on how this is implemented, this could actually be a step in the right direction. Lots of apps already send "promotional" push notifications (including big names like Lyft and Uber). The only way to turn them off was to turn off all notifications, which meant missing actual important updates. If this change means being able to opt-out of one without losing the other, I'm all for it.
The problem to me is that it is increasingly difficult to find software that is just useful, without disrespecting users constantly.<p>There are tons of issues in the App Store off the top of my head that I would <i>rather</i> Apple solve first (“making advertising easier” is #67422 on the list). And incidentally, their changes to search have made it incredibly hard to find apps I want, while adding...advertising!<p>Now, every day at least, when I open an app <i>because I want to do something immediately</i>, at least one will instead disrespect my time by popping up some modal first. “New features!” ”Promotional offer!” “Don’t you want to give us your E-mail first!?!?” Actually, no: I launched your app because I wanted to get something done, and your ad has made it slower.<p>Same with notifications, especially if you have secured your lock screen so that the subject of the notification is not immediately apparent. I want <i>useful</i> things, and I want everything else to go away. This seems like another step sideways or backwards from useful software.
After Catalina's increase in ostentatious nagging for the supposed sake of security, something they made fun of Microsoft for during Windows Vista [0], I really hope there isn't some paradigm shift inside Apple to become just as bad regarding alerts and popups.<p>[0] <a href="https://i.imgur.com/442C7Ij.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://i.imgur.com/442C7Ij.jpg</a> (slide from an ancient WWDC)
As a consumer, i uninstall such apps.
One example is the german „KaufDa“ app which was quite useful to me. I complained about the unwanted push messages and their support pretended to be dumb. I ended up uninstalling it.<p>Only if consumers refuse to accept these annoyances it will stop.
Not that it makes it okay for Apple to allow this, but it goes without saying that any app that does this, paid or unpaid, is getting immediately uninstalled.
From what I understand is that this an actual step in the right direction as Apple is formalizing how users get these ad-notifications.<p>> The new rules will only permit sending push advertisements to users if they agree to it. Users must also be able to opt-out of the ads whenever they want.<p>With their growing policy on advertising, tracking and privacy I think they will move towards not allowing advertorial push notifications unless an user allows.
I turn off all notifications except for sms and calls. And even for sms, i muted most of the operator promotional sms. The urge to check for the phone and the demand that you have to check for this notification was killing me. Surprisingly enough, <i>some</i> people would go nuts when seeing a kid nagging in demand of certain thing, while they are totally ok with their apps doing the exact same thing and even worse<p>It comes with a gotcha though, as i sometimes check some chat apps awaiting for response, but the good thing is when that happens i notice it, and it is not the norm.
I have some hope that the EU will outlaw promotional push notifications that are not opt-in, similar to email spam. As it stands, push notifications are almost entirely useless because of all the noise.
How about Apple bring down the hammer on apps that are abusing notifications right now (or you just uninstall them), instead of allowing ways to shove more ads into peoples eyeballs.<p>There is no scenario where this is a benefit to the consumer.
I've only recently heard of push notifications. I feel like we are being inundated with so many notifications that we now need a super notifications. Where does this notification creep end? Normal notifications should be perfectly acceptable if things weren't spamming that method to begin with. I feel like notifications and eventually push notifications will go the way of the phone call. You won't even bother looking at them anymore because you know it has such a high chance of being nothing.<p>At any rate anything that puts an ad in my notifications is as good as uninstalled. I'm already unsure how to turn off the news push notifications that I'm getting now.
Judging by the number defenders of advertising every time one of these sorts of threads shows up on HackerNews, it's astonishing to me how many people's livings are dependent on this garbage.
It's fine.<p>Personally, any app that insists on spamming me with adds is not worth my time, and i replace it with "something" else that fits the bill.<p>The same goes for apps that have subscription models, apps that require access to gps/microphone/etc without an explicit need for it.<p>I've replaced about 20 such apps in the past couple of years.<p>I understand that not everybody is willing to make that move, but everybody has the option to do so.
> People with an app installed for their favourite clothing brand, for example, may welcome a push notification to alert them when a sale is on.<p>So this wasn’t allowed before? But those “check out this stupid post from that random stranger” push notifications were allowed (maybe not on paper but definitely in practice)? Seems only fair then.
Apps like "Bring!" are already far too spammy with their notification. The moment I see the first real <i>ad</i> pushed as a notification, I will disable notifications completely, for all apps.
Skip the dishes spams you with ad-like notifications, but you need notifications turned on for the app to be fully useful. I just uninstalled it. It’s incredibly rude. What’s next, YouTube sending me push notifications to buy Dominos<p>(they have been showing me dominos ads every time I go to the grocery store, even when I pay with cash and have location turned off)
Any app that spams my notifications with ads is an instant delete. Apps that did this in the past are not going to adhere to the "guidelines". Apple will be kinda lax at enforcing them if history is any predictor of the future.
I have turned off all Instagram notifications (in their settings) and still I get their junk notifications of who to follow and what to think. Hate it. If these ads are anything like this. Consider notifications off completely.