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Ask HN: My career is over before it started, what next?

3 pointsby DreamScatterabout 5 years ago
Greetings HN, I am a math researcher and programmer who is not able to get a job or funding in my area of expertise. I was ostracized from university and given a &quot;respect violation&quot; because I asked a woman on a date in an email. Now I&#x27;m not able to find any way to get funding for continuing my research and career.<p>My current plan is to just keep learning and working on my math research and software frameworks, but I have no idea how to actually move my career forward.<p>Github: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;chakravala<p>In today&#x27;s society, it&#x27;s impossible for a math interested person like me to make money or have a career it seems. The only thing that matters to the outside world is not having a degree, so I&#x27;m worthless to everybody who funds research or pays people for mathematical software.<p>My only plan is to keep working on my research independently, until I am able to find some funding or career options related to math and programming.

5 comments

rossdavidhabout 5 years ago
Depending on the seriousness of the &quot;respect violation&quot;, I believe there are plenty of local colleges where one can get a degree in computer science or some other related major, and from there get a job in programming. If what you did is actually just ask a woman out in an email, this would not be a dealbreaker for most colleges.<p>Not sure what country you&#x27;re in, but there are also definitely in the U.S. employers who will hire a programmer that does not have a degree (although some won&#x27;t), as long as you can demonstrate that you can program.
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gigatexalabout 5 years ago
I can’t speak to the reason for you being kicked out of your position. There might be more to why you’re telling but nevertheless have you considered applying your math skills as a developer? Dev shops, if you don’t have any predilection to further let-me-go-get-HR activities while at work, these companies will clamor for your talent. Someone with your math skills will likely pick up the more complicated bits — there’s even theoretical computer scientists making a really good living at places like Microsoft Research.<p>If you wanted to stay in research though perhaps there’s some penance you can do and someone who would give you a chance at a new place? People make mistakes doesn’t mean we need to ruin someone’s career over it.
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hermitcrababout 5 years ago
&gt;given a &quot;respect violation&quot; because I asked a woman on a date in an email<p>That seems like an extreme response. But I have no idea of the context or the nuances.<p>If it is just what you say it is (and you can back it up) then I would hope most software companies wouldn&#x27;t hold it against you.<p>Lots of demand for programmers with good maths skills in computer graphics, machine learning, data science and any number of other areas. I suggest you create some software that demonstrates your skills. IMHO that would make your more employable than someone with a degree and no project to show.
WheelsAtLargeabout 5 years ago
There are plenty of careers that have math as it&#x27;s base subject. Research what else you might like to get into and move forward on that. Getting a job in academia is already hard so adding the violation will make it impossible. You need to come to grips with that and move on to something else. If you&#x27;re lucky you might even get a research job in the private sectors. You have a bright future you just have to switch your goals a bit.
jimmyvalmerabout 5 years ago
It sounds like your career in <i>academia</i> is over. In truth, your a priori chances of making it as a professional mathematician and raising a family with academia pay was very, very slim. Not a big loss, expected-value-wise, so cheer up!<p>You can easily find a schlub programming job paying six figures. Just remember to keep it in your pants, brah!
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