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Ask HN: Competitor putting Google ads against my company name

11 pointsby hnfwerrover 14 years ago
I have a startup that has been in business for about a year. In the last few days I started to notice that a competitor put some Google ads when you search for my company name (or company domain).<p>What is worse is that those ads are a bit agressive. Like "the truth about company X" or "why X is a not the best solution for you", all linking to their pages where they try to sell their stuff.<p>Is that allowed by Google? I couldn't find a way to flag/report those. What would you guys do?<p><i>I know it is a good sign that we are growing, but could influence some customers against us by reading it.<p></i>*using a thrown away account.<p>Any help is appreciated...<p>thanks!

7 comments

netcanover 14 years ago
This is common practice. Google's policy is different depending on country and it changes pretty frequently. There are two issues here: Appearing on searches containing your company name and using your company name in ads.<p>The latter has a better chance of being removed upon complaint, especially if the landing pages don't have anything to do with your company.<p>In some countries (not the US, UK), Google usually acts in favour of the trademark owner and pulls both ads and keywords upon request.<p>You can make the complaint here: <a href="http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#38;answer=50003" rel="nofollow">http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#38...</a> Send it by mail or fax as well.<p>If they're doing negative advertising, you could also try going to them directly (or maybe via a lawyer). It could easily be a 3rd party agency writing these ads and the company management might be embarrassed to be caught.
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BobbyHover 14 years ago
Have you tried contacting the competitor and asking them nicely to stop? In my experience with this sort of thing, a polite call or email is most effective. If you email, make sure that what you wrote won't be embarrassing if they publish your email.<p>If they are intransigent, explain that you understand but, just so they know, you will be pursuing a Tit for Tat strategy: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat</a> Communication really helps when you're tit-for-tatting, so contacting them will help on that front. If you are all relatively small, there are no antitrust issues at all.<p>If you are nervous about contacting them, you can pursue a tit for tat strategy anyway. To make it clear what you're doing, use the exact same copy that they do. If you want to be really direct, write a message to them in the ad copy.<p>In any case, you said they're bigger than you, so you'll actually get more leads from doing this than they get from keywords on your brand.
dreamuxover 14 years ago
Your best bet might be to register your trademark with doubleclick, then lodge a complaint against your competitor using your product/company name in their advertisements.<p>Try here: <a href="http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#38;answer=6118" rel="nofollow">http://adwords.google.com/support/aw/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#38...</a>
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danpatover 14 years ago
We looked into this a while back, we're in a niche electronics market. Similar situation.<p>Basically, if they're using a trademarked term in their ad, then you'll have grounds for protest. Using your company name in the ad that is displayed is generally against the rules.<p>If they simply have an ad for their company show up for a keyword search for your company name, then that's generally OK, they're not displaying your trademark.<p>Examples:<p><pre><code> You: WidgetCo Them: WidgetsRUS keyword: widgetco OK Ad by them: We make the best widgets ever! Try us today! Bad ad by them: WidgetCO sucks, WidgetsRUS are way better!</code></pre>
hnfwerrover 14 years ago
Btw, that company is actually bigger than ours and has been in business longer.
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cvinsonover 14 years ago
Happened to me. Worse, competitors started copying my exact Adwords text and headlines as well.<p>I was able to remove the ads that included our trademark fairly quickly by contacting Google.<p>For the rest, you just have to start your own campaign against them. Since our own company's keywords are pretty low search competition they are extremely cheap to bid on. When competitors see that you are bidding against them, they might back off (they did in my case).
kingofspainover 14 years ago
My ads weren't even allowed to go live until I removed the word 'apple' from the heading. It was auto-flagged as infringing. This is UK so maybe they treat marks differently here?
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