There is no doubt Cuomo should be the national point person for the response to the crisis based on his performance so far. He is independently working with regional manufacturing to retool to make critical medical PPE and ventilators, and has organized a regional coalition including CT, NJ, and PA. I have not agreed with him all the time, but his crisis management has been exemplary and he will have saved many lives in NY by the time this is done.
It will be impossible for us to permanently stop the spread with half measures. As viral spread continues due to half hearted social distancing, when will we be able to return to normalcy? Given the characteristics of this virus even a few cases floating around seem to be enough to reignite contagion.<p>So we persist in stasis for a month or a year with no end in sight while the economy begins to collapse, which will also destroy lives and lead to humanitarian disaster?<p>And all of that on shoddy evidence which probably is not counting the true case fatality rate due to woeful ignorance of the total number of infected people?<p>This article from a Stanford Professor makes the case that COVID-19 mortality is not as high as initial reports make it seem:<p><a href="https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/" rel="nofollow">https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-a...</a><p>We also have potential treatments emerging that could alleviate much of the strain on the healthcare system.<p>We need to make rational and strategic decisions here, not decisions based out of fear.<p>Massive and systematic society wide testing is the first step, the second step is the bulk manufacture of demonstrated COVID-19 treatments. The third is ramping up hospital capacity.<p>All of this is so that we can reopen society in a reasonable amount of time prepared to deal with the inevitable spread of this virus.
To be clear, the governor unequivocally said this is not a shelter in place. It is merely language telling employers that they are to not have workers physically present.<p>The governor also said there will not be any civil penalties for individuals that do not stay at home.
> Mass transit will remain operational and restaurants, food delivery and bank will remain in service.<p>This kind of article would really benefit from a quick bulleted list at the top, I had to skim to get this essential info
It seems highly likely that the US is headed where the whole of Europe is now: over 100,000 positives, over 5,000 deaths. We waited too long for actions like this. It will take a month before we see a drop in cases and deaths
Why does the guidance linked from the article here: <a href="https://esd.ny.gov/guidance-executive-order-2026" rel="nofollow">https://esd.ny.gov/guidance-executive-order-2026</a> mention a 75% reduction and the actual order linked from there: <a href="https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-2026-continuing-temporary-suspension-and-modification-laws-relating-disaster-emergency" rel="nofollow">https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-2026-continuing-temporar...</a> mention 50%?<p>Are they updating the order minute to minute?
Similar article that covers the issue <a href="https://www.courthousenews.com/teetering-on-lockdown-cuomo-new-york-on-pause/" rel="nofollow">https://www.courthousenews.com/teetering-on-lockdown-cuomo-n...</a>
<i>There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially</i><p>Then people won't take the rules seriously.<p>Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Seems so piecemeal. We have models that work in parts of the world like Korea, Taiwan and Singapore. Is there any reason why the US and Europe can’t follow their model?
At this point wouldn't it be better to just implement a Chinese-style martial law lock-down? The damage to the economy is already here. Might as well shut things down for 3-4 weeks and slowly open up sections of a city. That seems better to me then dragging this thing out for 3 months or longer. I feel like these "stages" of lock-down are doing nothing but delaying the inevitable which will cause more damage in the long run.
This submission and this one should merge:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22638396" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22638396</a>
Quote from NYTimes:<p>> For days, Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York City has pushed for a “shelter in place” order and the governor has repeatedly dismissed the idea, saying he would not quarantine New Yorkers in their homes.<p>He also spoke on a popular podcast earlier this week about DEFINITELY NOT taking this kind of action
I think it would be hilarious if the first reporter to ask a question asks, "Sir, what was that percentage of workforce reduction again?" and writes the number down on a pad meticulously. Then the next, "Are you sure it's not 101 or 98 or something like that?" "Sure I'm sure! And I mean everyone!" And the reporters keep asking for the percentage again, while groping for writing pads as if they are terrified they will not remember or transcribe it correctly.