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Airbnb Racks Up Hundreds of Millions in Losses Due to Coronavirus

138 pointsby dcgudemanabout 5 years ago

16 comments

chadmeisterabout 5 years ago
It&#x27;s kind of frightening to think of the broader economic impact it would have on the whole real estate market if Airbnb went belly up. Aren&#x27;t there a ton of cases where people are mortgaging multiple homes and paying them off with the revenue they generate? That cash just dried up over night and there doesn&#x27;t appear to be any incoming federal support.<p>Edit: Look, I&#x27;m all for affordable housing, but when viewing this within the context of a looming recession and potential financial crisis I can assure you that the last thing you want to do is add in a potential amplifier to a housing market crash. Houses may get cheaper, but everyone is going to suffer in very difficult to imagine ways. Corporate debt markets are looking scary as hell right now. If you threw a housing market meltdown at it right now, we could easily be looking at something much much worse than what we saw in &#x27;08.
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saltedonionabout 5 years ago
This is fair. A lot of hotel groups have seen their revenue drop 75 to 90 percent. Airbnb was never profitable (I think) and this round of trip cancellations put them deeply in the red.
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yesplorerabout 5 years ago
Why should Airbnb be making losses at this point?<p>Are they refunding booking fees to customers while paying hosts?<p>Traditional hotels lose money because of huge amount of, costs (both fixed and variable) associated with running a hotel.<p>shouldn&#x27;t Airbnb be making so much money at this point?<p>Edit: &quot;...at this point?&quot; not in reference to the current pandemic, rather at this point of how far Airbnb has come and how they&#x27;ve become a household name all over the world.
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listenallyallabout 5 years ago
How does this submission drop from top 10 to 3rd page in about 20-30 minutes? Not allowed to mention anything negative about YC co&#x27;s?
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moneymattressabout 5 years ago
If you didn&#x27;t know this already. &quot;Poor&quot; AirBnb here is simply letting customers cancel their stays without even letting hosts know and is then not paying hosts [1].<p>Note that a lot of these &quot;hosts&quot; are often small guesthouses that barely make rent and now have basically nothing for the next months. Of course you have your fair share of &quot;rent hackers&quot; on AirBnb but beyond that a lot of people run genuine small businesses around the platform and care a lot about their guests.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;johnkoetsier&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;airbnb-coronavirus-cancellations-guests-cancel-for-free-hosts-pay-the-costs&#x2F;#742ec36f131b" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;johnkoetsier&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;airbnb-...</a>
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gadnukabout 5 years ago
Weren&#x27;t they already losing money prior to this? Seems like a lot of companies are attributing losses to the Coronavirus masking the actual problem behind it all.
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zwiebackabout 5 years ago
We recently bought a small condo in Portland for our weekend use and as we were shopping around it seemed like the whole Airbnb-triggered rental market was already hopelessly overheated. With the capacity that&#x27;s there I can&#x27;t imagine occupancy rates averaged over the year being worth it for the condo owners. I&#x27;m guessing there will be a glut of condos available after the virus, many of them in foreclosure.
dk8996about 5 years ago
I&#x27;m not very surprised, most of the travel industry is getting hit hard. On a side note, I had a very bad experience with Airbnb. I found out, because it happened to me, that they remove negative reviews of hosts. I lot of the rating on their site are goosed.
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mrnaughtabout 5 years ago
this reminds me of the quote &quot;You never know who&#x27;s swimming naked until the tide goes out.&quot; by Warren Buffet
neonateabout 5 years ago
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foepysabout 5 years ago
It will be interesting to see what happens to all these VC-backed companies that have been losing money for years and are still not profitable.<p>When the VC money runs out not even government bailouts will help. Helping money-losing companies to lose more money isn&#x27;t in the interest of a government unless they are essential to the rest of the economy or national security.<p>Maybe the bay area will be hit much harder than other companies.
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qiqitoriabout 5 years ago
How? What are they spending their money on? They need to put people on leave and &quot;pause&quot; their business as quickly as possible!
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tibbydudezaabout 5 years ago
Is WeWork still worth something ... guess co-working is a bum idea right now.
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joshmnabout 5 years ago
Makes me wonder if they will start to offer &quot;trip protection&quot; or the like. The economics of it checks out.
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rocketpastsixabout 5 years ago
I watched Airbnb places ruin Nashville. I feel for the employees of Airbnb, but Im not exactly sad to see this .
fnyabout 5 years ago
Why don&#x27;t they borrow given we&#x27;re at 0 percent rates?
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