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Track infections through resting heart rate

63 pointsby pkuharabout 5 years ago

14 comments

smdzabout 5 years ago
&gt; Infections elevate your resting heart rate<p>This is not always true and I would recommend not to rely on it.<p>I recently had a sore throat, nothing more than redness, and felt sleepy all day for 6 days in a row. My Rhr had tanked to 50 consistently (manually verified) and I was concerned, but had no other issues than feeling a bit fatigued and mostly feeling sleepy. I did feel feverish, but had no fever (re-verified with multiple thermometers). I checked for any chest issues using a stethoscope at home, even though I did not have any respiratory problems.<p>Two days into it and on a second throat inspection, I found I had follicular tonsillitis - probably caught from my kid. A bit of a relief as I knew how to deal with it - but still no body fever. In the last two days, my Rhr then jumped back to 65-80 and it was the only time I had a fever once (101.5F), but my body was already feeling better and recovering from the infection.
bloogsyabout 5 years ago
An increased resting heart rate can be caused by many things, and we have no false negative&#x2F;positive rate for increased heart rate wrt this virus. Whilst the intention is good, this app will end up sending many more people to hospitals, doctors, and pharmacists than necessary, furthering the straing on the healthcare system.
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yovagoyuabout 5 years ago
This is hearsay, but I recall being at the Precision Medicine Conference recently and one of the speakers said that when sick with, say, flu, your heart rate spikes maybe 30-60 minutes before you&#x27;d otherwise know (have a fever, headache, etc.). So it didn&#x27;t seem like a very useful test.<p>Maybe coronavirus is different though. I would check up on sources.
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decebalus1about 5 years ago
Appreciate the intention, we should all be applying our skills to solve this problem we&#x27;re all facing but just playing devil&#x27;s advocate here, my resting heart rate has gone up lately.<p>And it&#x27;s not because I have the infection (I don&#x27;t), it&#x27;s because I&#x27;ve been stuck working in my apartment in Seattle for the past 3 weeks and I feel like I&#x27;m living a boring dystopian novel. I also stopped weightlifting, as the gym is closed. So my &#x27;convict conditioning&#x27; workouts aren&#x27;t giving me the same dose of endorphins as before, which helped keeping me happy and with a steady calm heart rate (I&#x27;m a huge hypochondriac). People I run into when I buy food also seem on edge.<p>Not sure how relevant something like this would be for someone living in the middle of the outbreak, which is probably the exact target of such a tool. Yes, I am aware that I&#x27;m aware of my stress (as you stated in the readme) but again, it wouldn&#x27;t help me or others by tracking my heart rate and associating it with an infection.
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mr_toadabout 5 years ago
Too much noise to signal for this to be reliable.<p>I’ve tracked my resting HR for years, and there’s so many other things that can affect it, including (in rough order of magnitude) alcohol &amp; dehydration, lack of sleep &amp; stress, ambient temperature, other illnesses, and finally exercise (which has a big impact long-term, but also gets lost in the short term noise).
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drakonkaabout 5 years ago
I was diagnosed with tachycardia when I was a child, during a mysterious illness that hospitalized me and that is suspected to have been a cytokine storm. I recently got my heart checked out (about a year ago). They never found the cause. I think it got better since I was a kid, but my resting heart rate still tends to be in the 90s. It does not cause any impact on my life. I exercise a lot, and just feel normal. Then again since I&#x27;ve had it my whole life maybe my &#x27;normal&#x27; is actually not normal to people who have a lower heart rate.<p>I&#x27;m still not sure if this puts me at any sort of elevated risk should I get infected with COVID-19. I am self isolating just in case, but my country is not really taking very drastic isolation measures right now and part of me just feels like I am being paranoid with no clear way to know if I am predisposed to any complications or not.
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pkuharabout 5 years ago
Infections raise resting heart rate. so resting heart rate is a good indicator of an infections.<p>I&#x27;ve made an app that collect heart rate data from the apple watch and posts it to a public server together with an approximate location. Data is anonymized.<p>Apple rejected the app, since it relates to human subject research and need IRB approval.<p>The app and backend are open source. If anyone want to push this through their university and do some research, you have my full support.<p>-- rejection<p>Hello Peter,<p>Thanks for your time on the phone today.<p>As we discussed, we noticed that your app is conducting health-related human subject research however the seller and company names associated with your app are not from a recognized institution and we were unable to verify independent ethics review board approval.<p>We have now rejected your app for the App Store Review Guidelines detailed below.<p>Guideline 5.1.3 - Legal - Privacy - Health and Health Research<p>Your app is conducting health-related human subject research, but we were unable to verify independent ethics review board approval.<p>Next Steps<p>Apps conducting health-related human subject research must secure approval from an independent ethics review board. You can attach proof in the App Review Notes section of App Store Connect.<p>Guideline 5.1.1 - Legal - Privacy - Data Collection and Storage<p>We found in our review that your app provides services in a highly-regulated industry and requires sensitive user information, however the seller and company names associated with your app are not from a recognized institution.<p>Per section 5.1.1 (ix) of the App Store Review Guidelines, apps that provide services or collect sensitive user information in highly-regulated fields should be submitted by a legal entity that provides these services, and not by an individual developer.
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jsilenceabout 5 years ago
There was some AI computer vision software that could process video from humans and deduce the heartrate with high accuracy.<p>A similar software like this Apple watch thingie could measure our heart rate through the web cams we have at our laptops.
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Aeolunabout 5 years ago
First thing I was looking for was a download link :(<p>Why does Apple think I’m unable to decide for myself whether I want this or not.
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m0zgabout 5 years ago
Yeah, not gonna fly, that one. Although Apple could get off its ass and publish an official app to track if I&#x27;ve been in the proximity of a (self reported) infected person. And if they actually gave a shit, they&#x27;d convince Google to share data. And then I&#x27;d be able to delete the data from both when this is over. Is this too much to ask? Why this is still not a thing is beyond me, PR wins alone would be worth the ~10 person-days of engineering work this would take to put together (2 days, Apple 1FE, 1BE, Google 1FE, 1BE, and half a person from each company to coordinate efforts; conservative schedule).
3327about 5 years ago
I have a garmin that constantly has my RHr.<p>I knew i had COV-19, so I logged everything.<p>Friday (contraction of virus) to Tuesday (first symtoms) my RHR tanked each day incrementally from 62 all the way to 50. on Wednesday when my fever kicked in, RHR jumped to 64.
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ja27about 5 years ago
I had a cold last fall and the day before I really felt it, my Apple watch threw up a notice that my resting heart rate was unusually high.
mrfusionabout 5 years ago
I always wondered if cardiovascular fitness shortened cold and flu durations with the body getting more blood where it needs to be?
scotty79about 5 years ago
This is very interesting. Fitbit and such have great opportunity to contribute.