The value of this new Lemur Pro is completely in how well the software works.<p>I had IT at my job buy me a Lemur Pro (previous model) a year or two ago.<p>If I just stayed at my desk all day it would have been better than the Macbook Pro.<p>But software issues were always letting it down, and I was wasting lots of time trying to patch/fix linux configuration issues & bugs. It got to be such a waste of time I gave up and went back to the MBP.<p>Main issues were:<p>- Lots of issues with wifi not connecting, wifi setup 1000x more complex than windows/osx.. mostly around linux not having autodetect on the myriad options on wifi<p>- Switching between wired at the desk and wifi was problematic, difficult to get up with the laptop and go to a meeting<p>- Lots of issues with applications needing to be restarted when switching from external to internal monitors<p>- Lots of extreme battery drain when trying to do certain activities.. e.x. video conferencing apps like zoom, webex, etc.. the fan would go 100% the whole time and the CPU would peg due to video acceleration issues. The battery could drain down 100% in a 30 minute meeting, etc..<p>I tried 2 different distros. It didn't really make a difference.<p>So realistically.. hardware on this thing is probably fine, if not as fancy looking as a MBP. It has more useful ports, so less need to carry dongles.<p>But it's a time waster in a lot of office/dev environments if the software integration hasn't improved.<p>This is the kind of stuff that wouldn't bother me on a personal laptop where the goal was to hack on linux. But it was a deal breaker on a corporate laptop where I needed to focus on the product.
Bought a Darter Pro last year, newest version, and as a long time apple user I just want to say: beware, the build quality is another ballpark. There is a reason mac books are 1k more expensive, they are that much better imo. Even with the shitty butterfly keyboard.<p>Not trying to shit on System76, it is a fine laptop and in a couple of ways better than a mbp, just not as 'premium'.<p>Oh, and they have no resale value, I getting offered ~20% of the new price for a laptop that has only been used for a week. Not surprising really, small market and all. And here (NL) nobody knows System76.
I would purchase today except there doesn't seem to be any screen options higher than 1080. I can't go back to 1080 after years of 4k monitors and mbp retina for work and x1 carbon 2k screen on personal laptop.
This looks cool. There is an important question that won't be answered for a while yet:<p><i>How long will the battery continue to give you a 21 hour charge?</i><p>Things might have changed since the last non-mac laptop I used regularly, but right now I have a 2013 Macbook Pro on the original battery that I still find usable for several hours at a time. I've never known a laptop other than a Macbook that comes close to that. Like I said, my knowledge of the subject is limited and I would love illumination on widely available battery quality in the 2020s.<p>In other news, as it became apparent that my 2013 MBP was not really fit for primary use anymore I went back to a desktop for everyday and I actually love it. I still carry the MBP for remote work and just-in-case, but the HEDC is really, really nice (12 cores, of course), since most of my time is spent in the office anyway.
<i>Looks</i> nice, uses coreboot and disables ME :), i5/i7, "Up to 40 GB DDR4", "2× M.2 SSD. Up to 4TB total." Holy cow that's a powerful machine.<p>> USB Type-C Power Delivery Compatible<p>It's capable of charging by USB-C? Then why does it have the old-style circular power jack?
How are barrel connectors <i>still</i> a thing? Apple figured out the correct way to hook up a power supply over a decade ago. Of all the design decisions manufacturers like to copy from Apple, why do they avoid this one like the plague?
If it wasn't for the 16:9 screen I'd buy it in an instant. Specs are sufficient for me, the battery life sounds enticing and the screen is matte. I'm just curious if I'm the only one that has such a strong preference for a less wide screen ratio.
Cool! My wife and I have System76 laptops, and they work quite well.<p>Congratulations to the System76 team, I look forward to seeing your success as you go forward.
Wow, 2.2 pounds, really light weight. I have had one of their Oryx Pro laptops for 18 months and really like it. I don't need a light weight laptop now, but if something happened to my MacBook I would consider it.
I hate specs that are stated like "up to 40 GB DDR4".<p>How much RAM does one get in the base $1,099 model? It seems that info is nowhere to be found
I've been looking for a non-mac machine to replace a 2017 macbook pro, and this looks great, but I can't divorce myself from the higher dpi screen. If this could match the mbp I'd order right now.
I need to update my 8 year old T520 with quad core i7.<p>I've been looking at the system76 series all year but can't really make myself pull the plug on anything. I can get a two year old T580 with similar specs for probably $600 on ebay.<p>But honestly, I'm tired of using Intel laptops (been doing that for over 15 years). Really hoping something more promising (and with better linux compatibility) from AMD powered laptops pop up soon. Lenovo already has some AMD stuff in their smaller T series lineup, but almost nonexistent in the used market (for now).
It looks definitely a good alternative to XPS, which is what I work with.
Both, most importantly, have matte screens. I can't understand how people can code with glossy screens...
The advertised battery life appeals to me, if it does indeed work as advertised. I have a 3-year-old Oryx Pro, which I probably over-indexed on performance on. Everything about it is great with the exception of the battery life which is usually < 1 hour (surfing the net or programming, nothing crazy). I would have gone with a different offering if I had known this.
I've been using linux as my primary operating system for a long time now. The last two laptops I installed linux on, I've had have had multiple problems, even using Pop OS. Dell inspiron bought from costco was awful, had to switch it back to windows. The graphics card never worked, the wifi was flaky. I got a thinkpad e495. Lots of issues, the whole computer freezes when you open chrome, reinstalled everything several times, tried the latest kernel, it won't come back from sleep sometimes and I lose all the things I had open.<p>If system76 can offer solid experience in terms of hardware support on modern specs, I'm happy to pay a premium to get the best experience. I guess it would be also useful if there was some site that ranked new laptops by linux compatibility, I don't want to pay a premium either if it takes 10 minutes to install linux from a USB stick, and people could confirm a machine works well.
Very cool overall, but to me USB-C is the default port I use. Most of my cables are USB-C on one end, not USB-A. I can't see myself buying a laptop with just one USB-C port. Does it even charge via USB-C? It says "USB Type-C Power Delivery Compatible" but I don't know if that's just power out or power in as well.
This model finally fixes the arrow keys issue I had with the previous ones- because the up arrow key takes up space from the right shift, I was frequently hitting up, instead of shift.<p>16:9 is ok for 14in laptop, but would be great if we get a 16:10. Still, not a dealbreaker.<p>Everything else sounds great!
It would be nice if the keyboard comes in other layout like ISO. It would help map keys better in other languages like spanish. I want a key for the Ñ.
Looking forward to seeing reviews of this one. I have a Galago Pro and my biggest issue is the battery size, so it's good that they went with a larger battery here. But I have lots of other issues with it so hopefully this model is better overall.<p>Also curious what "USB Type-C Power Delivery Compatible" means. I can charge over USB but the included charger is an old-style one?
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> *Tested at the default display brightness measuring watts consumed while separately watching videos on YouTube, reading articles on Wikipedia, and editing in VIM separately.<p>So, they didn't actually measure the 16hr Wikipedia / 21hr vim?<p>They just extrapolated from a non-linear power curve?
Looks pretty nice. A pity there's no option for the 6-core Comet Lake CPU (10710U). I assume the 40GB RAM limit is from 8GB soldered on, plus 2 slots. 16GB soldered would have been great too.<p>I wonder how Linux's support for USB-C docking stations is these days.
How are System76 trackpads these days? I bought one of their laptops five years ago and the trackpad was near unusable, the cursor jumped all over the place.
As someone who has never heard of system76: what is this / why should I care?<p>I'm curious, but the "about us" doesn't describe what the business is trying to do, just who's doing it. I assume it's on here for a HN-relevant reason, but I'm not really seeing what it is...
They have made the mistake of including a 720p camera, which, according to some of the comments on MacBook-related posts, makes a laptop nigh unusable and is totally unacceptable in this day and age.