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The JRR Tolkien Estate Can Go Fuck Itself

58 pointsby janconaabout 14 years ago

9 comments

pjscottabout 14 years ago
In general, the $FAMOUS_DEAD_AUTHOR estate can go fuck itself; such things usually exist for rent-seeking and nothing else. This is especially egregious, though, and there's probably a law against making baseless trademark threats in bad faith. Which the Tolkien estate can ignore with impunity because the legal system is scary for most people, and always inconvenient.<p>In happier news, though, copies of the banned buttons are now on sale from someone else. The Streisand effect works.
ryan-allenabout 14 years ago
The best comment on that post is this by AngusM:<p>---<p>“Dragons steal gold and jewels, you know … and they guard the plunder as long as they live (which is practically forever, unless they are killed), and never enjoy a brass ring of it. Indeed, they hardly know a good bit of work from a bad, though they usually have a good notion of current market value; and they can’t make a thing for themselves …” ["The Hobbit", J.R.R. Tolkien]
iisbumabout 14 years ago
After registering thehobbitmovies.com I received a not too friendly letter from the Tolkien estate instructing me to hand over the domain.<p>I declined their request and may put a site up at some point. For now it is a reminder that it is easy for people to tell you do something they do not have a right to tell you.
nirabout 14 years ago
I guess we're still not Reddit as long as "fuck" is not all caps.
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jarinabout 14 years ago
What he should do is file a DMCA counter-notification, which would require Zazzle to restore the product unless the Tolkien estate files suit within 10 days:<p><a href="http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Terrorism/form-letter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Terrorism/form-letter.html</a>
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arsabout 14 years ago
You can (if Zazzle will let you) just ignore them.<p>They have no case.
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rsabout 14 years ago
Honest question: does the Tolkien Estate have any legal grounding here ?<p>The way I look at it, if there was legal grounding, it might be a little quirky, as technically we won't be able to even mention any copyrighted/trademarked brand in casual texts. Imagine reviewing products and getting a take down notice at the end of that ? Doesn't make sense to me.
stcredzeroabout 14 years ago
My reaction is: So?<p>As a fan of both Tolkien and Evangelion, I find this sentiment to be pointless and tinged with misplaced agression.<p>You wonder why you should care about Tolkien? Why should we care that you care?
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p90xabout 14 years ago
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