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The Day the Movies Died (or, why Hollywood can't make good films anymore)

114 pointsby hernan7about 14 years ago

22 comments

InclinedPlaneabout 14 years ago
You hear this every year. And it's still true. Hollywood is wall-to-wall sequels, IP translations (games, comics, tv shows, etc. to movies), remakes, and the remake's newer cousin the "reboot".<p>Yet even so good films are still being made. The Social Network, True Grit (a remake even!), Toy Story 3 (a sequel!), The Fighter, Black Swan, How to Train Your Dragon, and Inception were all great films from 2010 (I haven't seen The King's Speech or 127 Hours yet but I hear those were good too). If this is what the system pumps out while it's horribly broken, I'm ok with more of the same.<p>There's always going to be a ready supply of churned out pap in any medium. Just go to a bookstore and look at all the crap that they keep pumping out. But that doesn't necessarily stop truly excellent works being published as well. Some of my most loved books have been published in the last several years. And with the internet it's easier than ever to sift through the dross to find the gems.
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edw519about 14 years ago
<i>With that in mind, let's look ahead to what's on the menu for this year: four adaptations of comic books. One prequel to an adaptation of a comic book. One sequel to a sequel to a movie based on a toy. One sequel to a sequel to a sequel to a movie based on an amusement-park ride. One prequel to a remake. Two sequels to cartoons. One sequel to a comedy. An adaptation of a children's book. An adaptation of a Saturday-morning cartoon. One sequel with a 4 in the title. Two sequels with a 5 in the title. One sequel that, if it were inclined to use numbers, would have to have a 7 1/2 in the title.</i><p>Was he talking about Hollywood or Silicon Valley? Hard to tell anymore.
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apiabout 14 years ago
I have recently rediscovered the book. (Well, mostly eBooks via Kindle apps...)<p>I read a lot when I was younger, but for some reason kind of stopped for a while. Now I read quite often again, and I love it. eBooks make it easy too. Click, boom, done, and if the author publishes directly or has a decent contract they get 50-70% of my purchase price.<p>There is a ton of very good literature out there: smart dramas, mysteries, sci-fi, quirky stuff like Gaiman's American Gods, classics I've never bothered to read, etc. The field is a lot larger, due in part to the fact that the capital requirements are essentially nonexistent. Anyone can write a book.<p>I'm not holding my breath on Hollywood. If movies have hope, it's from the indy scene doing interesting things on small budgets.
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keiferskiabout 14 years ago
As Hollywood wanes, indie filmmakers rise. Don't forget that a decade ago, a HD-quality camera was out of reach for anyone but Hollywood directors. Today, you can get one for $1,000.<p>Bad times for Hollywood film? Yup.<p>Good times for the art of filmmaking? It's never been better.
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apiabout 14 years ago
Reading more...<p><i>The Top Gun era sent the ambitions of those who wanted to break into the biz spiraling in a new direction. Fifteen years earlier, scores of young people headed to film schools to become directors. With the advent of the Reagan years, a more bottom-line-oriented cadre of would-be studio players was born, with an MBA as the new Hollywood calling card. The Top Gun era shifted that paradigm again—this time toward marketing. Which was only natural: If movies were now seen as packages, then the new kings of the business would be marketers, who could make the wrapping on that package look spectacular even if the contents were deficient.</i><p>I see the same thing happening right now in tech. I see a lot of fairly vapid, not very innovative ideas being driven by a lot of marketing and salesmanship.<p>Top Gun : Movies<p>Twitter : Tech<p>When you put marketers in charge of everything, you get a culture of pandering and recycled old ideas. That's what we have.
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WalterBrightabout 14 years ago
The percentage of good movies coming out of Hollywood has always been low. This idea that there was a mythical time when movies were great is nonsense.<p>The problem is, we tend to only remember the handful of great movies made back when. Nobody recalls the acres of dreck.<p>The other issue that Hollywood can't recognize a hit in the making was always true. Nobody ever thought Casablanca would be anything other than a throwaway time filler. Star Wars was a completely unanticipated hit, even by the people who made it. Etc.
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yummyfajitasabout 14 years ago
Of course, even Inception was based on earlier works.<p><a href="http://www.cracked.com/article_19021_5-amazing-things-invented-by-donald-duck-seriously.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cracked.com/article_19021_5-amazing-things-invent...</a>
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VladRussianabout 14 years ago
The basic misconception is that Hollywood is in the business of making good films. Nope. Hollywood is just in the business. I.e. making money, profit. The sequel 7 1/2 is an evolutionary developed model for that. Note: there is no contradiction with the fact that some years ago doing good films was good for business.
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aamarabout 14 years ago
tl;dr: Marketers control Hollywood production and are risk-averse gatekeepers. A bubble in independent/boutique production disrupted that side-channel.<p>It's not a complete picture; why doesn't the independent/boutique side fire back up? I think a better explanation is technology/distribution, i.e. HDTV + cable/internet. TV's mentioned in the article, but only as kind of a silver-lining; really it seems more like a classic disruptive technology. Shows like Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, Breaking Bad are highly visual and would until recently have been better as movies; now plenty of people have nice TVs, and they work fine there.<p>So the movie theater's niche is now reduced to material which needs to be huge in size, enormously loud, 3D, or seen primarily by people who refuse to or can't buy HDTVs. Everything else seems transitional.
tomkarloabout 14 years ago
This article comes down a difference over the view of what constitutes a "good" film:<p>* Studios: Economic -- low risk, popular, high profit * Writer, reviewers: Aesthetic -- plot, visuals, acting<p>The mass-market movie model just doesn't lend itself to making high quality product. It compliments high-marketability products - known franchises, sequels, etc.<p>In movies, you do a big marketing campaign where you spend tens of millions of dollars before opening day, then hope the movie makes that back in its first two weeks.<p>In television, with multi-week runs, you can hope to build audience, get good buzz, etc with a quality product that you didn't market a ton. See: The Wire, Mad Men, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, etc. The niche audience seeking quality will find the product.<p>This is why we are seeing movies move towards huge, low-risk, low-intellect tentpole movies targeted at non-discerning teenagers, and increasing success of relatively intellectual, high quality, long-form television series that create massively loyal followings, lots of rewatching and good DVD sales for years.<p>(And I'd argue it's a reversal of the 60s-70s, when you saw great, groundbreaking movies like Bonnie &#38; Clyde while most of the TV stuff on networks was middle-of-the-road dreck.)
rikthevikabout 14 years ago
Movie theatres have an important place for North American society. It's a place that teenagers can go and mostly stay out of trouble. If they want to watch shitty movies, they're welcome to that. :)<p>I'm fine with this situation. If creative people make TV and movies for adults and they do it on HBO or AMC, that's fine. The cable channels have changed the rules the game - you can be creative without Hollywood.<p>These days, I think the theatre experience is negative for most of us. We'd rather be at home watching on our flatscreens anyway.<p>It's similar to what Conan did by moving to TBS. It shows that the existing power structure, (network TV) can be circumvented using other means. The web makes it possible for word of mouth to travel quickly, I can watch Conan online for free, he gets ad revenue just like he did before and everyone's happy except an irrelevant NBC.
goofabout 14 years ago
The infantilizing of movies has been very disappointing for me personally. I seem to have a lot of friends that only want to see CG movies, usually from Pixar or Dreamworks. Sit them down to watch a live action drama and in fifteen minutes the iphones come out to play Angry Birds. Very frustrating.
kinabout 14 years ago
Didn't everyone know how awesome Inception was going to be the moment it was announced? Though I agree with some of his points, I don't know where his evidence is coming from. Another thing to point out is that it's really hard nowadays to come up with a truly original idea that feels refreshing to people since Hollywood's gone such a long way. People should really focus more on execution.
sdenheyerabout 14 years ago
Right on the money for why over-25's with kids don't go out to see many movies any more. And this goes double for dramas - a moderately priced home theatre will easily approach what you get in a multi-plex, quality-wise. If I'm going to deal with the logistics of going out, I'm going to choose the movies most enhanced by a huge screen and sound system - and that means comic book movie most times.<p>So, here's my stupid suggestion: make prestigious straight-to-DVD dramas, work out a deal with distributors to charge a little more (to separate out your movies from the garbage straight-to-DVD releases), and effectively do an end-run around the theatre system, which you'll never beat in a world with DVDs &#38; home theatres anyway. This also may take the stigma off releasing NC-17 movies, if they're marketed right.<p>* Please add "&#38; blu-ray" everytime you see "DVD"
kragenabout 14 years ago
This article points out that movies are now excessively marketing-driven, and suggests that the reason is that the generation born in the 1960s suffers from "arrested development" — i.e. psychological neoteny — to a unique degree, and that they now control Hollywood. Although it does not offer any evidence to support either of these propositions, it suggests that <i>Top Gun</i> or the Reagan administration might be the cause of the neoteny.<p>In reality, marketing-driven movie are nothing new. In the 1960s, they were called "exploitation" films; "exploitation" was the 1960s movie-biz term for "marketing". The crucial question is, why is so much of the movie business organized around exploitation films today? And an unsupported psychological hypothesis doesn't cut it as an answer.<p>Here's an idea that seems at least as good as the answer proffered by the article. The internet makes word-of-mouth travel a lot faster now. It used to be that the box-office receipts of a stinker movie would decline over the first few weeks after its release. Now, they decline even during the opening weekend. (I haven't verified that, but it seems like it ought to be easily verifiable.) People tweet about how bad the movie is even before they've finished watching it.<p>In turn, this word-of-mouth heightens the winner-take-all nature of the film industry; hit movies take home a bigger share of the total box-office receipts of the industry (unverified, but should be verifiable), with the result that more movies these days fail to even make back their production costs (unverified, but should be verifiable). In short, film production is a riskier investment than it used to be, and there's less that marketing money can do to rescue a stinker.<p>An economically rational response to this situation (assuming I'm correct!) would be to work harder to figure out which films are going to be hits and which are going to be flops, make the hits bigger hits, and spend less on the flops. For example, you could do any of the following:<p>• Value talent more highly. Talent can't stop a flop from being a flop, but it can make the difference between a hit and a mega-blockbuster.<p>• Don't spend <i>anything</i> on marketing. Release films in a single theater or a single city. If it takes off, print more copies. If GQ is to be believed, this would cut the cost of filmmaking in half, which would mean you could make twice as many movies.<p>• Release movies to audiences in episodes; start by releasing a half-hour pilot, and if it takes off, call the actors and director back to make another hour. This could cut the cost of filmmaking by more than a factor of 2, especially if the first part goes easy on the special effects, the music, that kind of thing. (In a way, that's what's happening with the sequel craze that the article is complaining about, but the difference is that you need to have the story arc planned out: <i>Dune</i> or <i>Star Wars Episode IV</i> or <i>Babylon 5</i>, not <i>Fast Five</i>.)<p>• Instead of a first episode, release an abridged version, maybe a half-hour. This has been done unintentionally and on a small scale for many years; think of <i>Blade Runner</i> and <i>Blade Runner: the director's cut</i>. The difference is that you can actually <i>save money</i> by <i>not shooting</i> the parts of the story that you leave out. Maybe instead of showing it in theaters, you can show it on Lifetime or HBO or something, or just on your web site.<p>• Instead of a pilot episode or abridged movie, do the first installment of the movie as a comic book. Comics have a lot in common with films: they're intensely visual and powerfully immersive, they even use cinematographic techniques, and a "graphic novel" is a lot closer in length to a movie than it is to <i>War and Peace</i>. These days, online, maybe you could even add a voiceover to your comic book. (Admittedly, filmstrips never really took off as a dramatic medium.) Again, in a sense, studios are doing this already; they're just not funding the production of the comics in the first place. They ought to. If there were ten times as many graphic novels coming out every year, they'd have a much better selection of audience-proven storyboards.<p>• Post trailers and teaser episodes on BitTorrent before you're done filming in order to see if they take off. It's no guarantee — lots of people will be willing to watch the movie for free even if they wouldn't shell out for a ticket — but if it flops there, it'll probably flop in the theater too.<p>• Cancel more films before they're even finished shooting. If your early indications are that it's not going to work out, don't try to rescue your investment by sending good money after bad, hiring a famous film editor to try to salvage something from the wreckage, nonsense like that. You need some kind of interim feedback on quality, of course, which is impossible to do reliably, although some of the approaches above might help. The big returns are going to go to the mega-hit films. Invest the money you would have invested in finishing the film in something that has a chance to be a mega-hit instead.<p>• Leave room in filming budgets for expansion. If early feedback (from the first episode, or just during screenings) is that the film is good, double the special-effects budget. Splurge on ADR and better music.<p>• Make more films, which means making a lot of low-budget films.<p>• Diversify your film investments; we should see more multi-studio films, just like we see lots of multi-VC-firm startups.<p>• Share the risk with the fans. Sell nonrefundable opening-night tickets before you're finished shooting, in order to raise money for the film. Give them cash back if the movie is a hit. Or sell the advance tickets in groups of four. (If the movie's worth watching, they can treat three of their friends for free.)<p>However, although as I said above, the studios are using some of these approaches, we're mostly seeing something else entirely. When you're used to a certain level of risk, and that level of risk goes up, your natural inclination is not to figure out how to take <i>advantage</i> of the new risk; it's to try desperately to <i>push the risk back down</i>. So, instead, we're seeing stupid moves like these:<p>• Release the film initially in <i>more</i> theaters, not less. That way, if it sucks, you might still make your money back before everyone sees their friends tweet about how it was so bad they walked out of the theater.<p>• Make films that people will want to see before they hear from anyone who's actually seen them: sequels, comic strips, toy brands. This is a necessary complement to releasing the film in a lot of theaters at once.<p>• Spend <i>more</i> on pre-release marketing instead of <i>less</i>. This slashes your maximum possible return on investment, but you have to do it if you're going to get people into all those theaters on opening weekend instead of a week later.<p>(The author's grudge against comic books is pretty embarrassing. Are you going to tell me <i>Watchmen</i> was infantilizing, not aimed at adults?)<p>Now, I admit I know little about business and nothing about the business of movies. So maybe these ideas are stupid.
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Tychoabout 14 years ago
Hmm, I find it hard to feel so pessimistic. I don't go to the cinema very often, but all the films I saw this year were outstanding (Kickass, Inception, Social Network, Kings Speech, True Grit were the latest). Also, sequels aren't necessarily going to be any worse than non-sequels. Often great art arises from restricted subject matter. For instance all the paintings of religious figures, or all the Shakespeare plays that were reworkings of popular stories/dramas.
butterfiabout 14 years ago
In a sense, Netflix is making Hollywood compete with itself. If Hollywood doesn't make anything new worth watching, I'll watch something worth the time from years past.
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robryanabout 14 years ago
Weird that The Fighter wasn't mentioned, would be up there with inception in terms of good storytelling.
mkramlichabout 14 years ago
Sturgeon's Second Law applies just as much to the movie industry as anything else. Which was the notion/observation that <i>"90% of everything is shit."</i> Movies, books, songs, politicians, artificial foods, software, companies, predictions, websites, etc.
visakhcrabout 14 years ago
I happen to search around for some marketing info about Inception and found this: <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/13/business/la-fi-ct-inception-20100713" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/13/business/la-fi-ct-in...</a><p>From LA Times, Warner gambles on an unproven commodity. Quoting the first line:<p>"The studio and its partner have invested $160 million in 'Inception,' a film that is not a sequel, adapted from a comic book or inspired by a toy. They're hoping it follows the path of 'Matrix.'"<p>I have a couple of points to make.<p>1) Inception is a great idea .i.e. similar to Matrix, for which the entire world fell at its feet.<p>2) But unlike Matrix, it's difficult to make a series out of Inception.<p>3) And last, Inception production cost was $160 million and Warner Bros spend the equivalent amount in marketing ($100+)<p>So, even good films, those which are born out of new ideas, needs a good marketing plan. The only thing is that the studios should believe in the film!!
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visakhcrabout 14 years ago
A question to all: When the nominees for this year's Academy Awards were released, one film was missing out. Even, it was missing out from all major film awards.<p>The Shutter Island.<p>It was a wonderful psych-thriller by master Scorcese, had some power packed performance by Leo, but didn't make it to any movie awards. Any takes?
mkramlichabout 14 years ago
Didn't read the article, just the title, but I'd like to chime in to say I'm pretty sure I saw around a dozen good movies in the last year. Subset includes Inception, Social Network, King's Speech, True Grit, Star Trek (too far back? not sure), and The Fighter.