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158 pointsby waffle_ssabout 5 years ago

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Normal_gaussianabout 5 years ago
At time of writing, both root comments are looking for an automated solution, a bot.<p>Having done something like this a lot, it does not work for me to have a bot. The predictability and lack of social accountability (one should be honest) causes it to fail.<p>It also lacks a huge benefit:<p>It turns out that doing something &quot;with&quot; someone, despite a lack of collaboration, has significant social value. Even more so if you do it in the same room or at worst the same video conference.<p>For this reason I moved from the many tools that exist to do this with strangers to arranging an hour with a friend. This works exceptionally well and has strengthened my friendships despite us living in different cities (I am in a small* town); likely because it keeps us present, real, and approachable in each others minds.<p>*small by southern English standards; huge by the standards of the northern county I grew up in.
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wallflowerabout 5 years ago
When I was training for a triathlon many years ago, my friend who was also training would text me and we would agree to meet at the gym for a morning swim a few times a month. At 5:30AM, of course! Every time the alarm went off, I cursed and cursed and made it out the door to drive to the gym, just in time. Neither of us never missed a swim date, and it was because we would never be able to live it down if either of us failed to fulfill the commitment.<p>It is one thing to go to the gym at 5:30AM. It is quite a different thing if your friend is expecting you to be there and they also got up early.
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svatabout 5 years ago
There&#x27;s a website for this called Focusmate, which seems to have been around for at least two years going by past HN discussions: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=1&amp;prefix=true&amp;query=focusmate&amp;sort=byDate&amp;type=all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=1&amp;prefix=true&amp;que...</a><p>I have not used it myself (and am not affiliated in any way); my only knowledge of it comes from reading a review&#x2F;experience [1], and a more recent mention in a newsletter I follow (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hillaryrettig.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;30&#x2F;focusmate-a-productivity-app-that-really-works&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hillaryrettig.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;30&#x2F;focusmate-a-product...</a>).<p>[1]: &quot;I Let A Stranger Watch Me Work For A Day — And I&#x27;ve Never Been More Productive&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;melmagazine.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;story&#x2F;focusmate-review-productivity-work-hack" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;melmagazine.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;story&#x2F;focusmate-review-product...</a>), HN discussion along expected lines: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19591227" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19591227</a>
simplifyabout 5 years ago
The author of this post is Anne Ogborn, one of the most experienced Prolog programmers in the community. She happens to be hosting a beginners &amp; advanced Prolog course[0] that&#x27;s starting in a couple days (I&#x27;ve enrolled myself). I see 70 others in the slack channel so far. Highly recommend.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AnnieTheObscure&#x2F;status&#x2F;1247603516551467009" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AnnieTheObscure&#x2F;status&#x2F;12476035165514670...</a>
ChrisMarshallNYabout 5 years ago
One of the things that I like to do, is stop for a few days, from time to time, and write a article about my personal process, projects, whatever.<p>I find that it helps me to write better code, think about my designs, and make sure that I know my stuff.<p>I don’t care too much whether or not people actually read my stuff, but I always make an effort like I’m writing for a major publication.<p>I will also write “lessons”; regardless of whether or not there are “students.” I was taught that the best way to learn, is to teach.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;littlegreenviper.com&#x2F;miscellany&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;littlegreenviper.com&#x2F;miscellany&#x2F;</a>
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battery_cowboyabout 5 years ago
I love how the first thing us social rejects here do is get an idea in our heads to make an artificial intelligence or a bot to replace the human interaction part.
pandatigoxabout 5 years ago
The author is talking about accountability, which the folks at Beeminder have been blogging[0] and implementing[1] for a long time. Their premise is to &quot;tread the yellow line&quot; and you won&#x27;t have to suffer the consequences, which is paying money each time you fail.<p>I used their app while preparing for an exam and I regret not using it earlier. I was initially put off by the fact that I will have to fork over money to a random company, but in reality, you don&#x27;t have to pay if you never fall from the &quot;yellow line&quot;. Additionally, they give multiple reminders so that money isn&#x27;t snatched away from you, and their customer support helped me refund money for one time when I didn&#x27;t log something that I did do.<p>This is an example of my logging the amount of hours studied [2]<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.beeminder.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.beeminder.com&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.beeminder.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.beeminder.com&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.beeminder.com&#x2F;llllll&#x2F;fg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.beeminder.com&#x2F;llllll&#x2F;fg</a>
pjc50about 5 years ago
A lot of people here find it hard to admit that humans aren&#x27;t purely rational self-directed creatures and that social pressure works, even when you&#x27;ve set it up yourself.
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jolmgabout 5 years ago
I wonder if the author really finds having a partner to be necessary. It sounds like this could be substituted with keeping a journal, recording what happens every hour. You&#x27;d get the bonus of having a written record of your day.
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drigbyeabout 5 years ago
I wasn’t brave enough to jump on with a stranger after checking out Focusmate. There are heaps of videos such as this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;cPTRA1gIWak" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;cPTRA1gIWak</a> on YouTube. I found this really handy and got a productive session out of it. Would be even better with live stream.
BlameKanedaabout 5 years ago
Oxbridge has a &quot;Tutorial&#x2F;Supervisions system&quot; where you and 2-3 other students meet with a faculty member every week, and you receive direct feedback and critiques on written assignments (typically essays).<p>I&#x27;ve never participated in these systems, but what&#x27;s struck me about them is that you have to come prepared not only with a finished essay, but you have to explain and defend them like you would a thesis. In high frequency.<p>Hours reminded me of this, but on a much more informal level. In both, you have to come prepared (at least, in the Hours system it&#x27;s to your benefit).
Darkstryderabout 5 years ago
I really like the concept but I wonder if doing it with someone external to the company is a good idea for those of us with NDAs, confidentiality clauses and so on. Especially if it is done using a communication channel that hasn&#x27;t been approved by the company.<p>I suppose you can keep the details vague enough if necessary, but if I was a spy, this is definitely something I would try to do with my target.
maroonblazerabout 5 years ago
If I knew how to write bots this would be a fun side project: Create a virtual partner.<p>The domain seems narrow enough that it would be feasible to put together something effective enough to achieve the desired effect - focus.<p>I&#x27;m a hobbyist developer so am probably underestimating the effort.
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Neszeabout 5 years ago
Similar product <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.focusmate.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.focusmate.com</a>
pjgabout 5 years ago
I like this. As a founder I&#x27;m constantly multi-tasking. Getting &quot;maker&quot; time is virtually impossible. Having accountability in 1 hour increments is good. The key is the overhead of setting this up and communicating should be minimal compared to the task at hand, else it won&#x27;t be efficient
rustyboltabout 5 years ago
There should be an IRC channel for this.