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Launch HN: Art in Res (YC W20) – Buy art directly from artists

410 pointsby JohnFrielabout 5 years ago
Hi HN,<p>I’m John Friel, cofounder of Art in Res (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artinres.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artinres.com</a>). Art in Res is an online marketplace where painters sell their art directly to buyers, instead of needing to work with an art gallery.<p>I studied art and moved to New York in 2008 dreaming of making it as an artist. It wasn’t easy. I lived in a maybe-legal warehouse space that doubled as a poorly-ventilated art studio. My first day job was stocking shelves at Trader Joe’s, which covered my rent and groceries but, at New York prices, not much else.<p>My best friend in NYC had a side hustle making artist websites by hacking them out on top of WordPress. He was great at it. Through that side-hustle, he got approached to make an online store for a small business. Shopify wasn’t wasn’t widely known back then and he needed help. So he proposed to me: “Hey John, I know you have a nerdy side. Do you think you could learn to program and we could make the website together?” I told him “No way! That’s crazy! It would take me years to learn to program!” But he said “Look, there’s this new thing called Ruby on Rails. At least just Google that before you say ‘no’”. So I did a Rails tutorial and thought “Hmm, maybe I _could_ do this.” We accepted the gig and I’ve been a happy coder ever since. (We did _not_ ship the site on time.)<p>I’m all in on coding now, but most of my artist friends are still making art, and still working day jobs. Their studios are full of amazing paintings that barely anyone gets to see. And for every one of my friends there are a thousand other artists out there, cranking out amazing work and not selling it because they don’t have galleries selling it for them.<p>A couple years ago, my cofounder John (we’re both named John) told me that he had bought a painting from an artist he’d met. He couldn’t believe how great the paintings were, how cool the artist was, how the artists’ studio was this cool warehouse space that was overflowing with unsold paintings. He knew me as a programmer – but wasn’t I a painter before that? He had the idea that we could put our experiences together and make a website where people could buy art from all the amazing but not-famous artists around them.<p>We started Art in Res as a nights-and-weekends project. We found lots of people who liked the idea of buying art – but we also realized that most people who aren’t hardcore art collectors think that paying over $100 for a painting is hard to swallow. The thing is though, that paintings are made by hand, often painstakingly over long periods of time, and so they don’t benefit from the economics of scale that create the prices that modern consumers expect.<p>We resolve that by having our buyers purchase art on _installment plans_, where each payment results in a payment to the artist. In normal circumstances, revenue for artists tends to be spiky and unpredictable. Once an artist on Art in Res gets a couple installment plans going, they have a nice, predictable revenue stream. And a buyer who is purchasing this way gets to live with a unique, hand-made painting for ~$30-60 per month. It works really well for both parties.<p>We’re working on Art in Res full-time now and our team has grown to 5 people (all creatives in some capacity or another.) We’re John, Dan, Noni, Emily and me. We think art should be affordable and artists should get paid. There’s so much amazing art out there, collecting dust in studios. It deserves to find loving homes. &lt;3<p>Thanks so much, and we can’t wait to hear your thoughts!<p>–<p>PS - I’ve been lurking HN for close to a decade and this is thrilling for me!

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RickSabout 5 years ago
Edit: huge props to the team for shipping a fix for this in minutes.<p>---<p>I want to love this idea, but I struggle to get past the lack of full price when browsing. It says &quot;$48 • 24 months&quot; and expects me to intuit that the product costs $1152.<p>Or rather, I worry that it expects me <i>not</i> to intuit that. Breaking the absolute price into a series of less frightening numbers to obscure the magnitude of a purchase feels slimy when cell phone carriers use it to trick people into buying new iPhones for &quot;cheap&quot;. This seems like the same tactic. Especially since the payback periods vary between paintings, so you can&#x27;t even compare apples to apples in terms of monthly dollar cost.<p>It&#x27;s okay that paintings are expensive. It&#x27;s less okay to undermine people&#x27;s ability to reason about the cost of things.
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ethanapplebyabout 5 years ago
John, this is an industry with a huge graveyard of failed startups doing the same thing. And the only ones left - Artsy, just went through a huge firing and recapping and I wouldnt give them long. Leaf group is trying to get rid of Saatchi in a fire sale and ArtFinder is barely break even with a team less than a dozen and making money from charging artists.<p>So given this idea does not seem different than the many before (and far from the 10x YC talks about when the needed improvement of a product to win a space), what am I missing?<p>Is there an underlying technology, unique community angle, or do you believe the timing wasnt before from the time of Artix to 2019 but 2020 is the year.<p>I love artists and design, and am shocked this has not happened yet, so Im rooting for you.
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itcrowdabout 5 years ago
I like the idea of making art more accessible by spacing out the payment. Congratulations on the launch!<p>I won&#x27;t comment on the art for sale, because I think it is too much in the eye of the beholder but I will give some feedback on your website and concept.<p>- Why fixed installments? Why not say &quot;this piece costs 300$ buy now, or pay 10 installments of 35$ or 20x20$&quot; (forget the numbers, just an example).<p>- why are there so few pictures of the work? If I buy a piece of art I want to look at it from all angles, get up close, see the structure, see it from far, see the frame etc.<p>- since <i>you</i> got excited from seeing artists&#x27; workspace, why not show them to us? Why not show those cool warehouses&#x2F;storage containers&#x2F;houses where the art is piled floor to ceiling?<p>- When I click on an artist&#x27;s bio, the last thing I want to see is a full-bleed picture of his face. I want to see where he works, how he is inspired or how this piece was formed.<p>- out of curiosity: how did you come up with the 30&#x2F;70 split between fees&#x2F;artist&#x27;s check? How do the artists respond? Have you had anyone say the fees are too high?
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hlmenckenabout 5 years ago
I really am not a fan of showing a price and then only finding out after clicking into a piece of work that that price is not the price of the art but of some monthly payment. On top of that not showing the ∆ between the monthly payment price and the all at once price clearly is really maddening. Overall I&#x27;m ok with the site and the idea but the pricing structure and display seems to be designed to trick people.
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tjwdsabout 5 years ago
Through friends, I&#x27;ve become a little acquainted with the art industry and how collections happen and get shown in the most general terms.<p>I feel like Etsy used to be a place where individual creators created things… and now it&#x27;s mostly used by industry professionals with a specific vibe or aesthetic feel.<p>Is the thing that distinguishes Art in Res from something like Artsy that you&#x27;re buying directly from the artist? How do you all plan to deal with, for example, galleries that might want to use or abuse this platform?
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dbcurtisabout 5 years ago
I love what you are trying to do. My family has a few artists in it (none full-time enough to pay the rent) so I have a visceral understanding of the passion that drives your idea.<p>After looking at several paintings, I found it difficult to get excited about any of them. Not because I didn&#x27;t like them, but the web site just doesn&#x27;t give the art presence. I mainly looked at oils and acrylics, and I could not get any idea of the brushwork, the texture. I just could not connect with any of them across the intertubes.<p>So I love the idea, but to me it seems the challenge you face is how to present the art. Sorry I don&#x27;t really have any great suggestions -- more views of each piece that allow for examining the technique? More careful lighting of the photos in a way the best complements the art? It is a big challenge and I don&#x27;t have any great ideas.<p>But there is something about being there -- we have all seen Munch&#x27;s &quot;The Scream&quot; or Van Gogh&#x27;s &quot;Starry Night&quot; a zillion times on the internet, on mouse pads, in cartoon parodies -- but actually standing in front of those paintings is an experience from another world. I want to get as close to that experience as I can when I look at your artist&#x27;s works.<p>I think you need to up the curation somehow -- maybe some comments from the artist about the piece, or some very close images of exciting details.<p>Very sincerely best of luck, I hope you succeed for your artists.
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anticsappabout 5 years ago
This looks really great, I hope you are psyched this post hit the first page. Everyone is fixated on pricing, I think the pricing is fine. Here are my notes:<p>Vectorizing - I don&#x27;t see anyway to share these creations with the world. Why not have a Pinterest share button? The looky-loos who will never buy anything can share these creations for you and generate free traffic for you. Put them to work. Also, encourage artists to put their store URL as their Instagram bio link.<p>Authority - You kind of have a Kickstarter problem. They launched with thoughtful projects to fund so half the two sided marketplace was done. What happens when you get a few customers who then want to become sellers? When Aunt Marie wants to put her crappy poodle paintings on your site? How do you let her down gracefully? If you don&#x27;t, why would I as a customer stay on site and sift through garbage?<p>Elitism - You are disrupting the gallery system but you are also accidentally creating a gallery. How do you reconcile that contradiction? Galleries don&#x27;t make their money on selling out stock from the current show (this sometimes happens), they make money from generating press, becoming authoritative, and the wealthy go to the back room, where the great stuff is. Sometimes the gallerist will say, no, a museum is considering buying this. Are you going to do that? Say no to make more money later?<p>Lastly, you couldn&#x27;t have picked a better time to launch. I would have to imagine the gallery system is getting flattened right now.
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cdubzzzabout 5 years ago
Hitting the back button after initial visit gives me a login prompt. That&#x27;s pretty annoying...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;605DZMN" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;605DZMN</a>
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protonimitateabout 5 years ago
The selection of work seems pretty high quality, but I&#x27;m curious - how does the artist&#x2F;art selection process work?<p>I come from a fine arts background and have always had issues with the contemporary art scene for it&#x27;s artist to curator&#x2F;gallery process. In general, social status and popularity seem to be the main currency for getting great art visible to the public.<p>I would love to see a service like this that enables more &quot;undiscovered&quot; high quality work to be shown, and for more unrecognized artists to get paid for what they love, but at the same time opening it up too all work could lower the overall quality of the available work.<p>Curation is hard - what system do you have in place for it?
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gangstertimabout 5 years ago
Congrats on your launch! The site looks great—and it strikes a chord with me, because I&#x27;m working on an art marketplace as well (albeit for prints, not originals). Given we have adjacent, not competitive platforms, let me know if you&#x27;d ever like to do some co-marketing! Our product is www.vsual.co<p>A few things I noticed when looking at your site: - I like the detail views you have on your pieces, but a the higher resolution, you may want to consider a watermark—and it&#x27;s possible it will help with artist trust, as well. - The &quot;Apply as an Artist&quot; link is kind of buried. It took me a while to find it. Might be worth moving that up, if getting more artists on board is a primary goal? - As a buyer, I&#x27;m still interested in the total price, and it&#x27;s a little hard to comparison shop when both the base price and period for works are different - I actually really like the &quot;message artist&quot; functionality. That&#x27;s a great touch! I&#x27;m sure artists appreciate it too
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mstadeabout 5 years ago
I love this idea and I&#x27;m sure you&#x27;ll figure out the pricing stuff eventually. I have to admit the whole focus on price kind of throws me off a bit. Whenever I go looking for pretty things, be it art or furniture or decorative objects I rarely start by looking at the price – I look at the thing itself and if it strikes a nerve then I figure out things like &quot;can I afford this?&quot;<p>To that end, I&#x27;d like a view where the focus is the art itself. Not who made it, not what it costs, not even the name of the piece. Let me discover that as I go, show me full screen pictures I can swipe through on my screen, and tap or click to learn more about the piece. Make the art the focus and put everything else in the background, Not even showing it till I&#x27;m interested in learning more. That&#x27;s what I love about going to galleries – the art takes center stage and if you want to learn more there&#x27;s a tiny sign next to it, and if you want more still you talk to whoever works there but the art comes first. I feel like your site is trying a bit too hard to make a sale. I absolutely agree that artists should be paid for their art, and I&#x27;m happy to pay for art that I care for, but ultimately I just want pretty things. Show me the pretty things first, then let&#x27;s talk business when I find something I like. I&#x27;m sorry if this comes off as too callous!<p>Also – and this is probably a really difficult problem to solve – I don&#x27;t really know what I&#x27;m looking for in art. I just know some things I like, but probably not all. I love Monet and other impressionist painters, but I also love old Japanese woodblock prints like the great wave. I&#x27;m also a huge fan of cubism and I can&#x27;t get enough of art nouveau. I&#x27;m not a huge fan of abstract art, but I like some. I love evocative photography, especially in black and white. I feel like maybe my taste profile fits a multi-spoke radar chart, where each data point is a relative preference rather than a binary I like this or that type tick box filter. I&#x27;m not exactly sure what I mean by all this, just that your search does nothing to help me, and I&#x27;m probably not gonna spend too much time looking at page after page of stuff that may or may not be interesting to me. I would 100% subscribe to a feed that fits my profile though, and especially so if it&#x27;s smart enough to also understand other types of art I don&#x27;t know about, but perhaps might fit my profile anyway. I guess what I&#x27;m saying is, if your site could be my personalized art dealer, there&#x27;s a good chance I&#x27;ll spend more money then I probably should.
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pavlovabout 5 years ago
I like it, and will definitely come back to see new works over time. I occassionally buy art and enjoy browsing the well-known auction sites for thrills (you never know if the next lot is a masterpiece or overpriced trash).<p>A few suggestions:<p>1) Structured artist bios. Right now it&#x27;s all over the place: some of your artists have a single paragraph, some a wall of text listing everything they ever did and attended.<p>As a buyer, I&#x27;m looking for the usual reassuring signals: this artist went to school X, exhibited at gallery Y that I&#x27;ve heard about, and their work was purchased for collection Z that sounds fancy... Maybe make it easier for artists to highlight those and even search by those criteria?<p>2) Generated preview images showing size of the work next to a human. I think Sotheby&#x27;s uses these on their site. It&#x27;s super helpful to be able to see the work on a simulated gallery wall next to a person.<p>If you need a beta tester, I&#x27;d be happy to help. My email is in the profile.
duxupabout 5 years ago
I like to go to the local art institute&#x27;s sale for students.<p>I&#x27;ve found some amazing things there for ~$50 to $100.<p>Personally I would find it hard to spend a great deal more than that based on a web view. The difference between &#x27;meh&#x27; for me and &#x27;amazing&#x27; is very subtle &#x2F; really shines when you see it in person.<p>Still a great idea.
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ad31marabout 5 years ago
Wow, as an artist and founder of a similar initiative [0], I have to admit you&#x27;ve absolutely nailed it with Art in Res. Have you got any job openings? :)<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;binnedart.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;binnedart.com</a>
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sergiotapiaabout 5 years ago
I couldn&#x27;t find a search anywhere, wanted to see if I could find some fanart for some of my favorite horror games like Bloodborne or Dark Souls. I hope you add it soon, I&#x27;ve been looking for a place to buy stuff like this.
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californicalabout 5 years ago
This is a neat idea -- getting financing for art would feel really strange for a lot of people visiting an art gallery. Your site makes the idea more approachable!<p>Personally, I&#x27;d prefer to see a &quot;total cost&quot; comparison of the purchase price vs financing rather than calculate it in my head anyways, but I&#x27;m not sure if that would discourage sales at all for other people.<p>Quick semi-thought-out idea: you could have a &quot;buy it now&quot; price that is higher than the financing price, and indicate that customers will save 5% by financing, for example. This would add some more transparency, and maybe even make people feel psychologically more into the idea of the payment plan. You said one of your goals included creating a revenue stream for artists to normalize their income a bit, so I thought this might help incentivize that even more, while still giving the option to purchase outright (some people will never want to finance). Personally, I try to never finance anything. Probably still wouldn&#x27;t for 10% off. But for 20% off I would be much more tempted to finance rather than buy outright
smhinseyabout 5 years ago
I&#x27;m fine buying prints or other similar things online but with original art, you need to see it in context and detail. I would love some sort of pseudo-VR style experience to actually get a sense for texture and depth. For example, this one taken at random* is almost $5k and on my 4k laptop screen the zoomed in version isn&#x27;t particularly crisp and I only have the one fixed zoom level. I can imagine paying in that ballpark for art but not under these circumstances. I can appreciate that there might be issues with having too high res an image available, etc., but still... Maybe you could mitigate this with similar return policies to the online mattress places. As is, the risk of spending a lot and ending up with something that isn&#x27;t quite what you expect is just too high for the big ticket items.<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artinres.com&#x2F;artworks&#x2F;rebecca-kaufman-pre-experience" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artinres.com&#x2F;artworks&#x2F;rebecca-kaufman-pre-experience</a>
A4ET8a8uTh0about 5 years ago
Overall, I like the selection and I hope it goes well. It is genuinely hard to find something good that won&#x27;t break your budget anywhere else. I am not sure if it was intended by filters on left side are grayed out for me ( took a while before I realized I could change them anyway ). Good luck!<p>edit: side note&#x2F;question. Any plans for including sculptures?
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ARothfuszabout 5 years ago
I really enjoyed making combinations on the filters to see what (I thought) unlikely combinations existed, and I was happy with what I found (e.g. minimal organic, architecture face). Does the artist apply the labels? Or is classification part of your curation? In any case, nice work. I hope your market finds you!
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owenversteegabout 5 years ago
One thing I&#x27;ve always been curious about with art in this price range ($500-5000) is the resale value. Say your tastes change and you&#x27;d like to get rid of one of these after a few years, how painful is it to sell? What are your chances of getting 50% of the purchase price? 90%? 150%?
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jenniferpatteeabout 5 years ago
John, I&#x27;m hearing a lot of great feedback re startups who have tried and failed at this. That does not mean you won&#x27;t be the ones who succeed. There is no clear winner in this space. You could be the founders who figure it out. There are so many obstacles to entering the art market. It&#x27;s unnecessarily complicated to start collecting and supporting artists. For instance, I would pay to &quot;virtually&quot; attend the Venice &#x2F; Whitney Biennele. The Headlands Center for the Arts has a great auction that only a handful of people know about. Same for Creativity Explored - an amazing way to build an art collection if you are new to collecting. There are a million possible ways to disrupt this industry. I am cheering you guys on.
datamindedabout 5 years ago
Thanks for sharing.<p>I&#x27;m interested to see how your pricing hypothesis plays out. I say this as someone who enjoys art and owns a couple of pieces.<p><i>how the artists’ studio was this cool warehouse space that was overflowing with unsold paintings</i><p><i>There’s so much amazing art out there, collecting dust in studios.</i><p>It could be that people want payment plans, or that artists need better marketing tools.<p>My hypothesis is that a lot of art is priced significantly above what the market considers acceptable. The alternative to buying one-off art from an artist is Pier1, Target or posters.com not an art gallery. How does the typical consumer justify a X00% markup?<p>If artists priced their goods at a price-point that drove sales, would there be an increase in renown that would allow them to sell at higher prices later?
bing_daiabout 5 years ago
Congratulations, John! What a great initiative. I am in the artistic community (classical music) as well, so it&#x27;s very inspiring to see you launching a project for the community.<p>I have a suggestion and a question.<p>Suggestion: your site does not have an About page of some sort to talk about the story behind the creation of the company and the experience of the co-founders. You have truly remarkable story, as I read in this post. So please include it to your site!<p>Question: I am curious about how COVID-19 has impacted the art community? My classical musician friends are certainly suffering financially and mentally because all of the concerts are suspended. I wonder how are artists doing in the pandemic.<p>Thank you and keep up with the great work!! Wishing you all the success.
mNovakabout 5 years ago
Nice concept. I definitely feel tempted--I otherwise only buy art at the local street fairs.<p>FYI filters don&#x27;t seem to to do anything for me (Brave, desktop)
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DrNukeabout 5 years ago
To be fair, the art market is just as flooded as the apps market these days. Moreover, art as a social endeavor still works as a ladder, so that you need to build credibility and authority day after day, before getting any pricetag on your works. The problem is not works collecting dust in studios, it is serious artists not being recognized because of the great great number of more vocal, self-aware and extrovert amateurs making all the noise. So my question is: are you just offering just another platform to everybody or are you aiming at a novel social discourse or movement while promoting your own artists in a coherent manner?
asennaabout 5 years ago
Congrats on the launch!<p>Interestingly, me and my team developed and launched a very similar service early last year - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;goldcanvas.com&#x2F;artworks" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;goldcanvas.com&#x2F;artworks</a><p>One of our core ideas is that if the artwork gets flipped by collectors and it changes hands multiple times, the artist gets a royalty (which is often not the case in the offline world).<p>I like your concept of monthly payments.<p>From the research that we did, it was surprising to us how much the artwork marketplace works offline and how opaque this entire world of Collectors and Curators is. There&#x27;s definitely space to disrupt here.
acomjeanabout 5 years ago
I like the site. I&#x27;ve been helping with Somerville Open Studios and we struggle to make a nice browser art listing for our 350 member artists. We came up with &quot;Itineraries&quot; of studios to visit. (Or struggle to get some of our artists in larger studio buildings to upload there art).<p>We have canceled our open studios event for May. We&#x27;re always looking for ways to help our Artist&#x27;s sell (being a non-profit we don&#x27;t have the resources to broker the transactions.)<p>If you don&#x27;t mind I have questions: Do the artists have their own portal? Is the art Currated? Are you handling delivery and payments?
BossingAroundabout 5 years ago
I really love the idea. I&#x27;d use it if this included artists from Europe (purely due to shipping costs that is, not that I have anything against US artists of course).<p>Maybe in the future, you could expand into the EU market..?
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caiobegottiabout 5 years ago
Congrats on the launch, folks! It looks really nice and I loved the idea! The first thing I thought was &quot;hey, maybe NOW this is an incentive to put my paintings somewhere trustworthy and see if it&#x27;s commercially viable&quot; regarding the stuff I do with acrylic and spatulas but then the whole artist application page felt... very unwelcoming... is it only for &quot;real&quot; artists with detailed portfolios and studio addresses? I didn&#x27;t want to leave the application page feeling I&#x27;ll be only allowed in Etsy-like places and be happy about it.
ForrestNabout 5 years ago
I&#x27;ve had the pleasure of purchasing a work via Art in Res and seeing the platform develop, and I can&#x27;t wait to watch it continue to grow. Both sides of this market place—artists with serious art practices but no commercial gallery representation, people who love art but can&#x27;t afford to buy from galleries—will get so much out of being connected to each other.<p>If you haven&#x27;t ever lived with art made by people who care deeply about making it, I suggest you set down $30 and try it! You&#x27;ll be surprised how much it can enrich your life.
codingdaveabout 5 years ago
This is a good idea - not 100% original, but the installments is a new spin, so I wish you well on the effort.<p>But - let us suppose this does take off and you end up with a large community of artists and buyers. How do you plan on letting artists get seen in what is now a crowded space? Many of your competitors frustrate artists because it becomes about marketing just to get visibility on the sites. Or it turns into a curated site, which puts the artists right back where they are with the galleries.<p>Any plans for how to scale this while avoiding such problems?
101008about 5 years ago
Hi John. I don&#x27;t buy or sell art, but I am a book collector, so this touches me tangential because I participate in a lot of auctions (auction houses, often, they sell all tpyes of art in the same auction, including books).<p>I loved your website, and I would find myself using it or sharing it with friends if I would be in the US. By the way, I will check your job openings from time to time because this is one of the startups that I would be passionate to work on! Kudos and best of luck!
hello_asdfabout 5 years ago
Looks great, what&#x27;s the advantage over SaatchiArt? Is it just a competing service?<p>Couple things that I&#x27;d like to have:<p>1. Filter by full pricing<p>2. Filter by canvas &#x2F; wood &#x2F; etc.<p>3. Filter by oil &#x2F; acrylic &#x2F; etc.
alphagrep12345about 5 years ago
Probably a noob question - but how do I know that I&#x27;m not being overcharged? As a matter of fact, how do I even know what&#x27;s the right price for a piece of artwork?<p>May be a long term thing, but I also think you should focus on expanding and growing your market size. Create blog posts, and videos on art, artists, art appreciation and advertize them. Educate audiance and get more people interested in it. That might percolate to making your business bigger.
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bcbrownabout 5 years ago
Nice launch! Here&#x27;s some feedback:<p>At first I found it hard to find the &quot;next&quot; arrow at the bottom. After scrolling through the first page, I gave up trying to find the next arrow and moved on to looking at the filters. Because all the text was greyed out, at first I thought they were unavailable, like perhaps you have to first sign up for an account before you can use the filters.<p>I would have liked the &quot;size&quot; filters to be multiple-selection; I wanted to see all medium and large art, but couldn&#x27;t select both.<p>One suggestion: add the ability for some people to create curations. I know I&#x27;m not going to like a majority of the art that&#x27;s listed, so being able to find a couple people with similar taste and browsing their selections would make it more likely I&#x27;d stay more engaged with the platform.<p>But perhaps I&#x27;m just not the target audience, too. I&#x27;m an art collector with a couple dozen pieces, in the $X00 to $X000 range. I prefer galleries to online marketplaces, because the curation provides real value to me; I consistently patronize the couple of galleries that match my preferences, and the limited selection in each exhibition reduces decision fatigue while providing reasons to come back consistently over time.<p>Good luck!
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koevetabout 5 years ago
Great idea and execution. I love art and I buy once in a while from galleries, but I&#x27;m often turned down by the steep prices. Any plan to expand to Europe?
rodonnabout 5 years ago
I really like the idea and your implementation. One request: I wish I could search for art by artists who are women or underrepresented minorities.
thecupisblueabout 5 years ago
Oh wow!<p>I can&#x27;t thank you enough for this - as an artist it&#x27;s something I personally want and I know many of my friends need - would love it if you&#x27;d put the artist application button somewhere more visible, people are gonna look for it.<p>This makes me jittery, I hope I fell ready to submit an application soon.<p>Any chance you expand beyond paintings?<p>Thank you and keep up the great work!
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travisjungrothabout 5 years ago
Someone in YC made Artix! (I kid)
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jcmontxabout 5 years ago
I like the concept. It looks like, though, your business is not art but financing. Very interesting twist.<p>Do you charge a fixed fee or a %?
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siegfried-enabout 5 years ago
Love the idea! Just some small feedback on your website: When I try to go back from your website, it keeps asking me to login. It&#x27;s probably due to the fact that it automatically sends me to the &#x2F;artworks page and when I try to go back it sends me to the &#x2F; one, triggering the login popup. Anyway, good luck!
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csomarabout 5 years ago
- I don&#x27;t really care much about the Covid-19 relief. If you are donating then good for you and for helping the community. But I do <i>actually</i> avoid websites&#x2F;services that try to advertise donations as a selling point. I can donate myself if I want to.<p>- Also, do not penalize artists who do not want to donate to Covid-19. That&#x27;s their business. They might be giving more, through other ways, to the community. They might be tight with money. Whatever. But the way the website is presenting it is that these guys are the <i>generous guys</i>.<p>- I don&#x27;t know how New York is but this photo is NSFW and probably not so for families: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artinres.com&#x2F;artworks&#x2F;marika-wagle-day-13-2020" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artinres.com&#x2F;artworks&#x2F;marika-wagle-day-13-2020</a> You might want to have a filter for that.
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lazzlazzlazzabout 5 years ago
Very cool project — the site is gorgeous. I&#x27;ve long thought there should be a way to expand artists&#x27; reach outside the expensive, laborious, and dated gallery system, while preserving the dignity, quality, and price of the work.<p>I&#x27;d love to understand the differences between Art in Res and Saatchi Art.
kleinishereabout 5 years ago
Tech stack question -<p>Incredible website that is both feature rich and succinct to the content. As far as marketplaces go, there are some known platforms (e.g. ShareTribe) and payment options (e.g. Stripe Connect) - did you all &quot;build&quot; from the ground up or &quot;buy&quot; in putting this together?
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werberabout 5 years ago
I’m struggling between considering these home decor or investment pieces. It doesn’t seem like any (that I’ve checked) are coming up on artnet, so when you say unknown do you mean like even to the art world? Also when filtering for large items in getting things as small as 6x8”.
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leephillipsabout 5 years ago
Do you have any interest in brokering digital art, as well? (Great idea and well executed, by the way.)
habosaabout 5 years ago
Congrats on a very cool idea that seems well executed. I rarely buy anything on an installment plan (never done it for a phone, etc) but for art it&#x27;s for some reason very appealing to me. I think I will buy something from here.<p>If I am paying $XXXX for my apartment each month, $XXXX + $50 to have a beatiful piece of art in it seems like a good idea.<p>I bought my first piece of real art last year from a gallery and it was a good and bad experience. Good because I was able to see the art in person next to other pieces and actually meet the artist. Bad because the gallery owner was somewhat rushing me and even when I pulled the trigger I didn&#x27;t get the piece until a few weeks later when the show ended.
vector_spacesabout 5 years ago
My main qualm is the hijacking of the browser back button. I despise when sites do this, and I know I&#x27;m not alone.<p>Other than that the design is excellent. I like that you list SKUs on the main page and that there isn&#x27;t a lot of cruft or excessive negative space.
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stereoabout 5 years ago
How do you make sure the buyers will keep paying even after receiving the artwork? You don&#x27;t keep the money in escrow or anything like that, do you?<p>Is there a way, as a buyer, to figure out how much shipping would cost?
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pinky1417about 5 years ago
I hope the won’t-pay-$100-for-a-painting (or $100 per installment) crowd is large enough to make your business worthwhile. It’d be amazing to simultaneously fund new artists, bring regular Joes&#x2F;Janes into the art world, and have a sustainable business at the same time.<p>But that little MBA demon on my shoulder is whispering that targeting low willingness-to-spend consumers will result in, at best, strongly limiting growth and, at worst, a perpetually money losing business. I’m just speculating since I don’t know your financials, so if you’re already in the black, my apologies. If you’re both in the black <i>and</i> don’t care about growth, apologies again.<p>But assuming you want to grow and&#x2F;or aspire to be profitable, you’ll either need to grow the size of the art market (hard) or sell to wealthier (or at least, people who spend more of their money on art) consumers (less hard). Social proof is a huge factor for buyers of substantial art, to the point that a handful of people&#x2F;galleries&#x2F;etc get to define what constitutes great - and therefore very expensive - art (there was a great Adam Ruins Everything episode on this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Dw5kme5Q_Yo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Dw5kme5Q_Yo</a>). My mom is very involved with the main art museum in my city, going on trips with other benefactors to buy art for the museum. She also buys art herself - not crazy expensive super known pieces like Damien Hurst’s shark, but still high-end pieces from up-and-coming artists (to put it another way, she buys pieces that aren’t in the $1 million+ range). She uses her own sensibilities primarily, but to find the art itself and ensure the price she’s paying isn’t for a dumpster, she relies on people in the art world.<p>So, I’m just suggesting you consider two characters of art consumers: (1) social proof drives their decisions and (2) there are often wealthier. Your creative juices might find something really innovative for the social proof component; I don’t have any specific suggestions at the moment. But on (2), consider targeting people in between Steven A Cohen (bought Hurst’s shark for $8-$12 million) and the &lt;$100 art buyer. Given the success (until recently) of Restoration Hardware, I believe you could find people willing to pay $1,000-$10,000 for art. People pay thousands of dollars for a sofa, why not the art that’s on display in their homes? You could imagine quite a few professional, internet savvy DINCs (dual income no children) in their 30s or 40s being interested in having a substantial art piece. They may be intimidated by galleries and not know what to select. Just something to think about to boost your margins.
lberkowiz1about 5 years ago
As an artist on the site, I think it is fantastic. It is different from Artsy and other Sites because of their personal attention and commitment to their artists and customers. Linda
throwaway1777about 5 years ago
Why is there an application process for artists? I have some art but I doubt I would be accepted because there are loads of more famous and highly credentialed artists in my area.
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ajhurlimanabout 5 years ago
Very cool, but I&#x27;d like to see the difference between the monthly and one-time total payments. The scale of the art is also difficult to perceive. Everything looks the same size and you have to look at the numbers on the bottom to see the size, but it&#x27;s still hard to capture at a glance. I know there&#x27;s probably some strategy to get highly normalized images of the art, but it&#x27;s not very immersive.<p>Otherwise, good luck with the project; I love the concept!
TenJackabout 5 years ago
This is cool! One small UI recommendation would be to make the pagination (1 of 92) in the bottom right bigger and more prominent. I almost couldn&#x27;t find it.
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chickenpotpieabout 5 years ago
I get paying artists in monthly installments, but I have zero interest in doing that as a consumer. Art is a luxury good and those that can afford it are trained to avoid financing things they don&#x27;t need. I would charge the users the full upfront cost and pay artists in monthly installments. Maybe instead of taking a cut off the profits you can invest the money that hasn&#x27;t been distributed to the artist yet like RobinHood.
milofeynmanabout 5 years ago
When I look for art I almost exclusively look for watercolor (or a specific style of realistic western oil). Some more filters based on medium would be useful.
aswihartabout 5 years ago
Congrats on the launch! Beautiful site. I&#x27;d like more info about how you ship the art before buying. I found your FAQ after a little digging, but it didn&#x27;t really give me comfort that you ship using a method that is particularly suited to fine art. Also, I noticed a few listings say that they come framed. For these I&#x27;d want to see the frame, they vary so much in style and size.
itronitronabout 5 years ago
Can you elaborate on what &#x27;take&#x27; and &#x27;total payout&#x27; are, and how they relate to each other and the total price of an artwork?
NaOHabout 5 years ago
Looks fantastic and I hope this does well. Congratulations. And thank you.<p>Suggestion: Maybe move the pricing filters on the left side to the bottom of the filtering choices, just as a way to emphasize the works over the dollars.<p>Bug?: No matter which filters I select, or how many (even none), I&#x27;m shown there are 92 pages of results.<p>Best wishes with this.
stevenjgarnerabout 5 years ago
The &quot;Tap below to copy your invite link:&quot; on your invite page does not appear to work? (Google Chrome on macOS)
sherlock_habout 5 years ago
Cool idea. I wish if I send links to friends (via iMessages, Whatsapp, FB) that the link preview populates with the images of the page in question and not a general image. For the artist page, I would like it to show an image from the artist and for the link of an individual painting I would like it to show the painting in question
elorantabout 5 years ago
This could work well for companies that could lease art for exhibiting it in their offices. The artist gains recognition and a steady income, the company raises their prestige and can change artwork every couple of years, and everyone is happy. It has been tried before and failed, I hope you guys make it.
Tarrosionabout 5 years ago
I like this idea! Any plans to expand to types of art which are not paintings? e.g. I love colorful geometric glass art, and to the extent I collect art [I have definitely noticed the &quot;I should buy some art&quot; urge growing as my age and salary grow], that&#x27;s where I expect to spend my dollars.
hhsabout 5 years ago
This is amazing!<p>Have you thought about adding details about what materials the artists used besides noting the basic supplies like “canvas” and “oil stick”?<p>As a buyer, some may be interested specifically on what colour name &#x2F; brand of materials the artists used. And if ambitious, why they used those items over others?
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ZoomZoomZoomabout 5 years ago
At this stage of the Art Market evolution, I applaud anything, that&#x27;s not churning out pretty pictures from &quot;art&quot; farms in the third world (no offence here, pure economics, someone&#x27;s just using low quality of life in these countries).
DenisMabout 5 years ago
Are you interested in resellers? Like, retail chains?<p>Also, no contact information on your site. Boo.
philfrastyabout 5 years ago
Is this US only? Didn&#x27;t find any mention on this in the FAQ or signup page.
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simonrobbabout 5 years ago
Spectacular! Well done on shipping a product&#x2F;service which I&#x27;ve wanted for a long time. In particular the financing option will enable me to take the leap into the world of fine art for the first time.
subpixelabout 5 years ago
I have painter friends. They do not want to sell me their art an any price. They would rather pay to have it in the right gallery show.<p>In other words, artists who are trying to build their career are demand, not supply.
tomatomanabout 5 years ago
Your filters are broken. No matter what I pick I get the same paintints
aaronbrethorstabout 5 years ago
Very cool. I&#x27;d love to see this extended to photography. good luck!
carstenhagabout 5 years ago
The price filter does not seem to work (maybe the minimalist one neither, but not totally sure). I selected &lt;1200$, saved it, the page says &lt;1200$ but I see 7000$+ paintings.
cheriotabout 5 years ago
Since we&#x27;re all commenting on the price display, I&#x27;d be really curious about my own behavior if it was not visible on the gallery view.<p>(I really want to find a less expensive one that I like)
paul_milovanovabout 5 years ago
Question for founder: who takes on credit risk, the artist or Art in Res? Who does buyer credit check and determines interest rate? What does &quot;responsible for damages&quot; mean?
elymarabout 5 years ago
This is a great idea! I&#x27;ve browsed for quite a bit now. My only suggestion is that the thumbnails are a bit small, so it&#x27;s hard to see the image without clicking on it.
pletschabout 5 years ago
The site looks great, love the scale feature! What&#x27;s your target demographic? I could see interior designers&#x2F;companies who stage houses being a huge market for you.
the_arunabout 5 years ago
How do you guys ensure that the art is not a copy of another popular art work? Could customers flag an artwork saying it is pirated with information about original?
Kiqueabout 5 years ago
Love the site, and honestly not unreasonable prices compared to galleries in my area (Chicago). Love the banana for scale feature!
idrisserabout 5 years ago
Really nice website, best of luck in the launch!
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richardfontanaabout 5 years ago
Would you consider working with visual artists other than painters (I have a good friend who is a textile&#x2F;fabric artist)?
davidajacksonabout 5 years ago
Cool but have to do math in my head while reading the page initially, can you add total price.<p>Idea: sell some AI generated art for charity.
brandnamehqabout 5 years ago
What happens if a customer stops making monthly payments?<p>Does the financing model work by offloading all risk to the artist?<p>Are there some protections?
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couchdb_ouchdbabout 5 years ago
I love when you press the &#x27;Show Size&#x27; button it puts a picture of a banana on the painting for comparison.
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joering2about 5 years ago
Inability to hit back button is a killer to me. Instantly got into panic mode and scared to visit again :(
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earlyriserabout 5 years ago
Is this open for Canada based artists?
chadlaviabout 5 years ago
Heads up, with adblockers turned on in iOS Safari, every product image on your site is missing.
masahikoabout 5 years ago
whats your business model? margins are slim and one would assume repeat purchases will be few?
TaylorGoodabout 5 years ago
Is there somewhere on the website to express interest in becoming a featured artist?
colejohabout 5 years ago
This is really awesome! Love browsing the artists and seeing their different styles.
irl_zebraabout 5 years ago
I really like it! I am a millennial with a lot of disposal income because of SWE and companies like FAANG. I&#x27;ve been to art galleries and openings but never purchased, and always feel like there&#x27;s some low grade grift going on. I don&#x27;t know.<p>This is the first Show HN I&#x27;ve sent the link to friends! Found several things already, like it.<p>One word of caution, we launched things years ago with a Show HN and took all the suggestions into account and total failure. HN isn&#x27;t the average crowd and their preferences aren&#x27;t the usual preferences. It&#x27;s like how the whole internet seemed to support Bernie Sanders but he ended up flopping bad (not getting political, just am observation). HN, Reddit, Twitter aren&#x27;t the real world, take all advice and popularity from said sources with a grain of salt.<p>That said, my partner and I are looking at art on your site now and will likely be spending thousands this week via the site. Love it!
queercodeabout 5 years ago
a lil bit of website feedback: on route change, please scroll the page to the top.<p>if i scroll to the end of the home page, then go to &quot;how it works&quot;, i&#x27;d expect not to be at the end of that page.<p>love it, though!
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WFHRenaissanceabout 5 years ago
Isn&#x27;t this literally Paul Graham&#x27;s first startup?
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have_faithabout 5 years ago
The lead is<p>&gt; Art should be affordable, and artists should get paid.<p>Why is this?
tigerlilyabout 5 years ago
Hi John, any plans to expand outside the USA?
ksj2114about 5 years ago
Awesome idea and execution. Congrats :)
baby_wipeabout 5 years ago
Very cool, but too expensive for me.
Rauchgabout 5 years ago
Awesome
jes5199about 5 years ago
_wow_ those paintings are bland
sherlock_habout 5 years ago
This is
jes5199about 5 years ago
etsy but expensive