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Opt out of Clearview.ai

150 pointsby himynameisdaveabout 5 years ago

33 comments

6gvONxR4sf7oabout 5 years ago
As a California or EU resident, shouldn&#x27;t it be illegal for it to be opt-out?<p>(edit: on further reading it looks like GDPR requires opt in, while CCPA seems to only require opt in for people younger than 16, and requires opt-out for people 16 or older, which is some bullshit)<p>Regardless, I should be able to say &quot;I&#x27;m opting out&quot; and the onus should be on them to figure out how to do it, rather than me submitting enough pictures for them to recognize and exclude me from their crawler. This seems against even CCPA.<p>(another edit since this pisses me off so much: The page linked says &quot;Alternatively, you can email: privacy-requests@clearview.ai&quot; so I&#x27;m just going to email them to tell them I opt out. They can figure out how to comply with my opt out)
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newscrackerabout 5 years ago
Should every person start keeping a list of all privacy intrusions and then opt out? That’s never going to work out due to user fatigue, which is what all these opt out platforms depend on (that nobody will go through the trouble of doing it).<p>(Not exactly the same) Just like Facebook announced a few years ago asking users to send it nude photos just so it could take down nude photos of that person, this also is ripe for abuse. It’s a matter of when, not if, they opt out information also leaks.
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buildbotabout 5 years ago
For anyone with more legal knowledge than I have, how does scraping and processing social media and other image sources deal with copyright license, especially ones forbidding commercial use.<p>I feel like there&#x27;s a meaningful legal difference between a totally public, open to be downloaded image of you from the internet, even storing it forever, and then using that in a product.<p>It would be like taking something with a GPL license - totally legit to download and use and modify and repost, with the original license&#x2F;copyright attached - and using it in a closed source commercial product.
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concernedCityabout 5 years ago
There&#x27;s something very wrong about some random company being able to collect lots of data about you where the only way to stop it is to _somehow_ know about the company and opt out _after_ it collects that data.
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Rafuinoabout 5 years ago
I made a request for data access on February 12, and I still haven&#x27;t heard a word from these asshats. Don&#x27;t hold your breath on them actually honoring the request. I realllllly can&#x27;t wait for CCPA enforcement to start this summer, though I know privacy invasive tech companies are lobbying to have enforcement delayed.
bostikabout 5 years ago
This page should not be even needed. Having your data be in something like this should be <i>opt-in</i>.
jennyyangabout 5 years ago
Is there a way to &quot;poison&quot; the results of Clearview by adding images of yourself over a short period time that distort your features?
bla3about 5 years ago
Given their justification for their product, I wonder what they&#x27;d think of someone crawling images on the web and sending automated opt-outs for all crawled images that contain a face...
cgb223about 5 years ago
For those of us that aren’t familiar, what exactly is Clearview.ai?
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time0utabout 5 years ago
Could I just say I&#x27;m a resident of CA or the EU? Clearview supposedly doesn&#x27;t have any info other than public images, so how would they know the difference?
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throwaway55554about 5 years ago
Why TF should the burden be on <i>me</i>? So tired of this. Everything should be opt-in. You don&#x27;t have permission unless I explicitly give it to you!
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annoyingnoobabout 5 years ago
An opt-out that requires you to give them exactly what they want and requires them to keep it is crap. Its not &#x27;opt-out&#x27; its &#x27;make less available&#x27;.<p>The Ad Choices opt-out is the same thing - better not delete your cookies if you want to &#x27;opt-out&#x27; - total BS.<p>Scumbag authoritarians.
pjs_about 5 years ago
Please self-identify as a deviant by filling out this form...
jbverschoorabout 5 years ago
lol I dunno if I wanna send &quot;a clear photo of you&quot;
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apiabout 5 years ago
Knowing what I know about the sketch factor of this company I am reluctant to interact with them in any way, as this would just give them more data.
hellcowabout 5 years ago
I filled this out weeks ago... never got any response.
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time0utabout 5 years ago
Their opt out system is driven by typeform.com. I&#x27;m not familiar with this service, but it seems to have caps of at most 10k opt out requests per month and 4GB of uploaded images. They might be on an enterprise contract with different caps though. I know one way to find out...<p>Are there legal implications if you cannot submit an opt out request because of their technical choices?
zbjornsonabout 5 years ago
If you both opt-out and request data deletion, how do they keep you opt&#x27;ed-out? That seems impossible for them to comply with.
sebastien_boisabout 5 years ago
&gt; &quot;This tool will not remove URLs from Clearview which are currently active and public. If there is a public image or web page that you want excluded, then take it down yourself (or ask the webmaster or publisher to take it down). After it is down, submit the link here.&quot;<p>Not much of an &quot;opt-out&quot;.
throwaway837373about 5 years ago
I have a better idea - how about instead of giving them even more identifying information, we file a class action lawsuit instead?
luxabout 5 years ago
No option for people outside those regions?
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sixstringtheoryabout 5 years ago
&gt; There&#x27;s no point acting all surprised about it; the plans and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for fifty of your earth years. If you can&#x27;t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that&#x27;s your own lookout.
polymorph1smabout 5 years ago
&quot;Your request cannot be accepted because that link is still public.&quot; got this message when trying to deindex my image.<p>Sadly for general public (the rest of the world), you can only &quot;opt out&quot; if your image source was removed.
hopplaabout 5 years ago
I would like to exercise my rights under GDPR, but are not allowed. Why is Norway excluded from the GFPR form? They only accept EU&#x2F;UK&#x2F;Switzerland
jcahillabout 5 years ago
Business logic fades. Being on the list of companies that pulled this shit is forever, plus or minus an asteroid impact or two.
tozeurabout 5 years ago
Just submitted. Curious to see what they have
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lootsauceabout 5 years ago
My massive level of cynicism on this subject makes things like this seem completely unsurprising. I generally feel that the Binney and Snowden revelations served to normalize knowledge of being systematically monitored by big brother. This common knowledge of being watched is absolutely necessary for a surveillance state to function as intended. The gold mine of private data made available to them via National Security Letters and other such mandates to provide access. Surveillance capitalism is not really about capitalism at all but thats just my cynical side again.
oefrhaabout 5 years ago
What if I&#x27;m a former California resident? Does the law say they have to delete photos of me taken in California?
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tiny_epochabout 5 years ago
Presuming one follows through on this, how can I trust that I am in fact opted-out?
hoschiczabout 5 years ago
Is there a deadline for them to reply to my Data Access Request Form?
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praveenhmabout 5 years ago
To opt-out you need to upload a clear photo, this is more rishy..
dariusj18about 5 years ago
Does doing this put you on a list?
irscottabout 5 years ago
If you&#x27;re not covered under CCPA or GDPR (most of the world) then you&#x27;re just shit outta luck. Cool.