DigitalOcean VPC

I&#x27;m glad they plugged their outbound network transfer fees compared to the others[1]. I was shocked and horrified when my AWS bill (which I pay myself) quadrupled due to outgoing network transfer fees. It&#x27;s truly outrageous what they charge. I use Digital Ocean a lot now simply to avoid nasty surprises like that. I hope AWS and Google change that.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.digitalocean.com&#x2F;its-all-about-the-bandwidth-why-many-network-intensive-services-select-digitalocean-as-their-cloud&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.digitalocean.com&#x2F;its-all-about-the-bandwidth-wh...</a>

I find some of the limits weird <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalocean.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;networking&#x2F;vpc&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalocean.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;networking&#x2F;vpc&#x2F;</a><p>- VPC network ranges cannot overlap with the ranges of other networks in the same account. (Edit: Does this mean each VPC in the account has to have a non overlapping subnet?)<p>-Resources do not currently support multiple private network interfaces and cannot be placed in multiple VPC networks.<p>- Not being able to change the VPC connected to stuff without taking a snapshot

Got to love DO.<p>Simple pricing, nothing hidden, not the most feature rich ecosystem, but I get no billing surprises.<p>Source: customer for 3 years.

Do they talk at all about what they&#x27;re using to provide the VPC overlay? I have a DO k8s cluster and it uses Cilium for the CNI, which turns out to be quite useful, so I guess I&#x27;m wondering if they&#x27;re also using Cilium for this.<p>(Over in AWS land, they wrote a CNI for their own VPC networking. It turns out to have many strange limitations. For example, you can only run 17 pods on a certain type of node, because that node is only allowed to have 19 VPC addresses. I was quite surprised when pods stopped scheduling even though CPU and memory were available. Turns out internal IP addresses are a resource, too. DigitalOcean has the advantage of starting fresh, so might be able to use something open source that can be played with in a dev environment and extended with open source projects.)

Why don’t most VPC providers offer IPv6? Is there some kind of implementation issue with it, or just that you don’t need it.

DigitalOcean seem to be slowly but surely becoming a &quot;cloud provider&quot;, rather than a &quot;VPS provider&quot; - it&#x27;s really great to see some attractively priced alternatives to Azure&#x2F;AWS&#x2F;GCP!<p>I was wondering if DO publish some kind of roadmap? I&#x27;d really like to know what else they plan on delivering over the next year or so?

Not being able to reassign, delete, or change the cidr of the default VPC is going to be a problem for most folks. Looking forward to the next release where this is fixed, and the fact that we have day 1 support for Terraform is awesome!

All I&#x27;m missing now is ability to provision droplet without public IP. Sure I can disable the interface, but in VPC I really don&#x27;t want publicly accessible resources except well defined entry points.

Aside: I got curious about their web video player. Turns out it&#x27;s hosted using a service called Wistia. Their &#x27;about us&#x27; video is fantastic. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wistia.com&#x2F;about-wistia" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wistia.com&#x2F;about-wistia</a>

They must be great, my servers are constantly receiving hack attempts from Digital Ocean IPs.

Oh this is really cool!! I&#x27;ve been wanting them to do this for a few years, glad they finally did. It has some quirks (have to clone to add to an existing VM) but its at least a great start!<p>One thing I want to do is setup a VPN tunnel from my home network and lock everything else down. Wasn&#x27;t possible before but it is now with this.

This is nice, but Kubernetes already does enough in that department for our needs.<p>Given that now “Security and customer trust are at the core of what we do”, it would be nice if they could fix the massive oversight in their Spaces offering where every API key has full access to all spaces&#x2F;buckets.

I didn&#x27;t realise they offered Kubernetes as a managed service. Will seriously evaluate when our GCS credits are getting closer to running out. VPC, Kube and managed DB is all we need (and Terraform providers).

When are you going to have a datacenter in Brazil? We don&#x27;t mind if we have to pay more than your listed prices for other locations. We know Brazil is more expensive. Just do it already.

I&#x27;d have been more interested if it could be made to work across regions... I also thought private network addresses had been available on DO for a while now.

<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;console.hetzner.cloud&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;console.hetzner.cloud&#x2F;</a> has had a free VPC for a while ... great alternative to the aws offering ... looking forward to changing my scale up&#x2F;down devops code currently on aws to work for any private network ... trying to avoid cloud vendor lock in

This is great - any word on supporting internal IP load balancers on Kubernetes? From what I&#x27;ve read, unlike GKE, AKS etc, all kubernetes services exposed via load balancer gets a public IP. I&#x27;d like to keep internal services locked to internal only networks like what you&#x27;re proposing with this VPC feature.

I&#x27;m just learning here about the cheaper outbound network fees - I&#x27;m always afraid of the outbound costs due to any spike of traffic.<p>Could anyone here share some other benefits to using DO? Or any particular Must Have&#x27;s on a particular cloud provider?

Cloud Firewall, VPC, glad to see useful features added.<p>Personal experience with DO: I&#x27;ve been a happy DO customer for the past [7 years](1). Linux VM [uptime](2) record has been amazing for personal use case.<p>This week I migrate the droplet hosting my personal website (5&#x2F;m) from DigitalOcean to Amazon Lightsail (3.5&#x2F;m plan) this week. Trigger being Ubuntu LTS upgrade to 20.04 again failed to boot on first few attempts again (wasted quite sometime chroot trying to fix to no avail without access to the hypervisor - IaaS...), mainly because of the way DO&#x27;s flavour of KVM (hypervisor) works (I am not the only one), my other VPS (e.g. 123Systems - KVM) worked well and never had the same problem, let alone Xen powered VMs (EC2, self-hosted XenServer, etc. - I know hypervisor well because I&#x27;ve worked for XenSource&#x2F;Citrix on XenServer for several years).<p>Customer (technical) support quality has dropped over the last few years, I can tell the difference by comparing the last 2 support tickets, I don&#x27;t want to guess the root cause, sigh...<p>Finally I have had enough (4th time down with upgrade), it&#x27;s time to move on to something better without paying more, migration is made easy due to the way workloads are deployed (most containerized, thanks to Docker&#x2F;Docker Compose). With Lightsail, in addition to the AWS name&#x2F;brand, has the advantage to move the Lightsail VMs into AWS EC2 instances so as to leverage full-fledged AWS infra (e.g. VPC, etc.) seamlessly.<p>Over the years, low end VPS competition has becoming much tougher (DO, Linode, Vultr, Amazon Lightsail late to the game but powerful strike, etc.) DO has lots its key competencies for bang for the buck, without offering 2.5~3.5&#x2F;m plan on par with competitors.<p>Last but not least, I&#x27;ll definitely consider DO as an option when Cloud Infrastructure is need, still ;-)<p>BTW: On Oracle, my Oracle Cloud free tier trial ended miserably, 2 weeks after provisioning the VMs, Cockpit (I run it on my home NAS - managing&#x2F;monitoring a small group of cloud VPS using the web UI) reported connection failed, only to find that my account has been terminated without any warning or notification along with my 2 free VMs based in Phoenix, lucky that I didn&#x27;t actually put any workload on it (left them running only - feeling something&#x27;s gonna happen...), contacted support and was told account deleted, no reason, redirected me to customer support (my oracle support, I couldn&#x27;t figure out how that works, so give up...). I still don&#x27;t understand how Oracle Cloud login works...<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;EWhuECEUEAEJ5gV?format=jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;EWhuECEUEAEJ5gV?format=jpg</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;EVSbMKmU0AAEg58?format=jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;EVSbMKmU0AAEg58?format=jpg</a>

Very happy DigitalOcean customer for 4+ years. Great to see this, too.

The value of digital ocean used to be simplicity.<p>Vpc isn’t simple.