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Walking the Clojure source history: a talk not given

100 pointsby kencauseyabout 5 years ago

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filoelevenabout 5 years ago
There was an article posted here a few years back which visually shows how a git repo’s source code changes over time. Projects have varying degrees of downward slopes in the banding, which indicates the rate at which old code is overwritten.<p>One commenter (puredanger) ran the tool against the Clojure repo and remarked on its stability. After 2011, so past the time examined in the notes from this article, the banding is almost flat: new layers get added while very few changes are made to old code. The image stands out, and indicates how sound the language core library is. They keep adding new features, and don’t have to mess with the plumbing to make them work.<p>Code half-life: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13112449" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=13112449</a><p>Clojure repo chart: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;rH8DC" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;rH8DC</a>
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jonahbentonabout 5 years ago
There is a good talk here, a series of talks. Clojure and Rich and the thinking of the entire Cognitect team (Fogus included, of course) have been so influential- intellectually- and many of its and his and their tenets have become mainstream, even dogma. That being concerned about &quot;immutability&quot; is a practice these days is at least partly due to Rich. Can you imagine programming without immutability?<p>But a big part of Clojure&#x27;s story has not just been in the ideas, but also in the details of the design and implementation. From the performance guarantees of the persistent data structure implementation, to the idioms around parameter ordering, both of which I was appreciating yet again earlier today- aside from the ideas, there are ergonomics that only make themselves known through use, like easter eggs.<p>So there is much to mine in tracing through the history of the implementation, revealing those easter eggs in nascent form.
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