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Operating Systems Without Systemd

122 pointsby yangliweiabout 5 years ago

16 comments

edoceoabout 5 years ago
Sad Gentoo didn't get more mention. Been using that w/OpenRC since before systemd existed and it's still my solid daily driver.
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jmclnxabout 5 years ago
Well they forgot to list Slackware. It does not use systemd either.<p>edit: just read it again, it is a list of OS he likes, so it was not an omission :)
teleforceabout 5 years ago
Shepherd is probably a good alternative, and it can be used standalone or with Guix:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnu.org&#x2F;software&#x2F;shepherd&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gnu.org&#x2F;software&#x2F;shepherd&#x2F;</a>
jbnorthabout 5 years ago
Maybe I&#x27;m just out of the loop but what is the controversy regarding systemd?
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ppfabout 5 years ago
No mention of Devuan, a fork of Debian for the sole purpose of removing systemd (and they&#x27;re also not a fan of dbus, for reasons that escape me).
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combatentropyabout 5 years ago
To the commenters: this article explicitly wasn&#x27;t meant to be exhaustive or even introductory. The two links he embeds near the beginning were:<p>- Linux distributions without systemd (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190208034948&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;without-systemd.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;Linux_distributions_without_systemd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190208034948&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;without-sy...</a>)<p>- Operating systems without systemd (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190208034948&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;without-systemd.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;Linux_distributions_without_systemd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190208034948&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;without-sy...</a>)<p>Then he adds, &quot;Here I’m just going to mention a few operating systems that I personally have found interesting.&quot; So these few are just ones where he thought he had something fresh to say. He did not aim to compete with the more objective lists he just mentioned.
efiechoabout 5 years ago
Just finished reading Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution, and if we could travel back and show the original hackers at MIT things we use in 2020 like systemd, electron etc. I think they would be in complete disbelief over the amount of bloat, and ask us why we stopped caring and started to accept software design like that.
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andoriyuabout 5 years ago
A few linux linux distos, GNU Hurd experiment, rust experiment, BeOS inspired, but none of the main stream BSD OSes? Not including the most popular linux distribution that doesn&#x27;t have systemd - Android. Not including macOS, but i guess it&#x27;s not OSS, so it doesn&#x27;t count. Doesn&#x27;t include Alpine linux.<p>That list is hella weird and should be named &quot;Experimental OS that I&#x27;m curious about, but don&#x27;t want to run myself. Also, none of them has systemd&quot;
branonabout 5 years ago
Plug for Void, the community recently added support[0] for the Pinebook Pro, so it&#x27;s been my daily driver for a few months now.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;void-linux&#x2F;void-mklive&#x2F;issues&#x2F;105" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;void-linux&#x2F;void-mklive&#x2F;issues&#x2F;105</a>
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itsajokeabout 5 years ago
They forgot to mention Windows and MacOS.
kitotikabout 5 years ago
At what point is it just systemdOS?
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tramtristabout 5 years ago
Slackware. Now and forever.
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bhawksabout 5 years ago
Android - anyone? Android is linux, it&#x27;s init is simple and the user experience obviously successful. There is a ton here for other distros to learn and improve on.
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k__about 5 years ago
I think, that sums up what&#x27;s wrong with the Linux world right now.<p>NixOS and GuixSD being the next generation of distributions and people are calling it <i>&quot;neat project with some unique features, but it is more fun as an intellectual curiosity than as something practical&quot;</i> while arguing if a distribution should use Systemd or not...
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coleiferabout 5 years ago
OpenBSD dabs on this list from the towering arches of the heavens.
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stevebmarkabout 5 years ago
It&#x27;s weird linux folk hold such strong opinions about something so old and well established that doesn&#x27;t matter at all.
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