Think this is from June of last year. The Drive broke the story about the patents: <a href="https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-got-ufo-patent-granted-by-warning-of-similar-chinese-tech-advances" rel="nofollow">https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-g...</a><p>The journalists pursued a two prong strategy for this story. First one was verifying the cockpit videos released years ago via FOIA requests (that was a surprise) that only recently got released by the Navy (a bigger surprise.)<p>The second prong was their investigation of a supposed scientist working for NAWCAD, named "Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais." Think physicists have looked at the patents and called it word spaghetti. One of the patents literally starts defining how to control gravity.<p>The journalists are still not sure whether this is a real person doing fraud backed by ignorant leadership trying to save face desperately or a purposeful psyop operation headed by a made-up name and designed to drain foreign government research budgets.
The "background" section of this particular patent [0] <i>starts</i> pretty sane (if obviously a little grandiose--enough to get one's guard up) but rapidly and suddenly dips off the rails. The trouble is that the mostly unintelligible details about "hyper-frequency" rotational and vibrational coupled modes are interspersed in a bunch of technically correct--if vapid--physical statements about quantum fields pervading all of spacetime, and other phenomena being emergent of excitations in these fields. (Notwithstanding the fact that uniting QFT with gravity is the biggest open problem in Physics today...)<p>I think this is an illustrating case in how much easier it is to create high-falutin' nonsense than it is to debunk it. Most of the claims are somewhat vague but they touch on areas where someone needs a lot of knowledge and precision to coherently dispute them.<p>I highly recommend reading a patent lawyer's research into the history of this particular patent from the last time it was posted here[1]. Apparently the examiner tried to reject the patent claim several times on technical bases, against the protest of some Navy brass, before finally admitting it without comment months later.<p>[0] <a href="https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en" rel="nofollow">https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en</a>
[1] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19763445" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19763445</a>
Appears the scientist [1] that filed this patent has a history of filing patents that “stretch the limits of science” — which to me increases the odds the only thing being stretched is the truth:<p>[1] <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Pais" rel="nofollow">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Pais</a>
From 2016 already. Note from the wikipedia page of the filer of this patent: "His patent applications on behalf of his employers have attracted international attention for their potential military and energy-producing applications, but also doubt about their feasibility, and speculation that they may be misinformation intended to mislead the United States' strategic adversaries about the direction of United States defense research."<p>In particular it's pretty wild that:<p>- this effect does not seem to have been replicated in outside laboratories<p>- the US military would willingly share details about how it works through the patent system while they can also just not tell anyone.
If this were true (I doubt it), that's an insanely short patent (6 pages) with barely any information about the device. How would something like this get approved. That's insane.
"As [Baron Vladimir Harkonnen] emerged from the shadows, his figure took on dimension — grossly and immensely fat. And with subtle bulges beneath folds of his dark robes to reveal that all this fat was sustained partly by portable suspensors harnessed to his flesh. He might weigh two hundred Standard kilos in actuality, but his feet would carry no more than fifty of them."<p>As I've gotten older and fatter this seems like a better idea. I'm ready for my portable suspensors now please. This may help to solve the Navy's problem with obesity among recruits.
The tech behind is sound. There do exist similar "antigravity" devices. And patents.<p>The problem is to make gravitomagnetic fields efficient. Currently it's barely measurable.
Pais' idea does look good, esp. the idea to hook up two such spinning superconductors and twist their axis a bit. That's the UFO patent. AFAIK he is trying to build such a thing with the navy right now. In the lab in my city they tried similar things, but their lab is very small, and they cannot verify Pais' idea. The navy should be good enough. Interesting moonshot, but probably nothing will come out of it.
There's an expression, with respect to rock music: "Before any artist did anything, Elvis did everything..."<p>Or, with respect to classical music, substitute Mozart or Beethoven for Elvis...<p>With respect to this kind of stuff, there was John Ernst Worrell Keely:<p>Hans von Lieven: KeelyTech: Paper on John Ernst Worrell Keely<p><a href="https://merlib.org/node/5064" rel="nofollow">https://merlib.org/node/5064</a><p>"Before the Navy did anything, Keely did everything..."<p>Also, if you're going to study Keely, watch out -- there's a lot of fake news and disinformation...
Build a craft with a cold fusion power plant, an EM-Drive propulsion system, one of these babies for lift, and an Alcubierre drive for once it breaks orbit you'd really have something.
The USN has been watching too much Macross in their free time. And couple this with fuzzy deep fake videos, media complicity, and high-ranking "reliable authorities" behaving as actors must be getting a good kick out of trolling the public for "natsec" "reasons." Without independently-verifiable evidence, big claims are most likely big yarns.
Let's be clear about one thing, it is far more likely that this object is terrestrial. Going off of this, thee country most likely to pull this off would the the United States.
"polarized vacuum" I'm sure those two words could be elaborated upon, certainly does seem to be a couple of nice words when put together make you go - errrm
I’m glad to see this again. This patent is the first thing I thought of when the “UFO” admission news hit last week. I’m guessing what we’re seeing is probably some experimental stuff. Hopefully it’s our stuff.
Have they accidentally invented time travel yet?<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primer_(film)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primer_(film)</a>
I don't know anything about quantum vacuum but from reading this I assume that the entire mechanism follows trivially from the underlying physical properties. Or in other words, wasn't this application apparent when physicists theorized these properties in the first place? And shouldn't the IP belong to the public which subsidized the research?