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Never Send Your CV via Gmail

62 pointsby jason_priceabout 5 years ago

23 comments

slgabout 5 years ago
This entire article is premised on an excuse from a single HR person that an email ended up in their spam folder. It is probably worth keeping in mind that "your email ended up in spam" does occasionally happen, but it is also a widely used polite white lie that people use instead of saying "I ignored your email."
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jdm2212about 5 years ago
The article says that the issue was on the recipient side, not the sender&#x27;s side, so the title is wrong -- sending via Gmail is fine, receiving via Gmail is... well, supposedly an issue, but I&#x27;ve never had a resume land in my spam folder so I&#x27;m skeptical.<p>(Amusingly, my Google job offer landed in my Gmail spam folder years ago. But that was because of a weird thing where forwarding from my @university.edu account would screw with headers that Gmail uses to verify the authenticity of an email.)<p>Also...<p>&gt; They must be using Gmail client to access their office emails, I guessed.<p>Is that even a thing? Does Gmail reroute stuff to spam that came into your inbox via POP&#x2F;IMAP?
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janwillembabout 5 years ago
Summary:<p>&gt; Author applied to multiple positions via email and was not hired. He suspects this has something to do with his resume ending up in the spam folder on the other side, who use Gmail.<p>If this was a problem in an application I was debugging, I would highly mistrust this theory and dig deeper to find a more probable cause.
morisyabout 5 years ago
Having been on both side of the hiring fence, many HR departments primarily pass around PDFs when evaluating candidates. If you instead, as suggested, include a link, I think you&#x27;re even more likely to shoot yourself in the foot because when you&#x27;re evaluating dozens or hundreds of candidates, anyone who makes you take an extra step is very easily lost in the shuffle, even inadvertently.<p>The spam filtering tools can indeed be frustrating and even dangerous; the answer is to find a way to cordially confirm receipt and make that a practice. I switched away from Gmail to another dedicated email provider and found even more of emails were getting sent to spam, with no real recourse for diagnosing.
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knorkerabout 5 years ago
The fact that this so called developer doesn&#x27;t understand the difference between a sender and a receiver of email makes me think there are other things in the CV that caused them to not be hired.
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mips_avatarabout 5 years ago
I had a different gmail hiring snafu happen to me. I was applying to jobs, and my offer for an onsite interview at Microsoft was filtered to spam by gmail. I was also applying to google at the time, so I joked that google was being jealous and wanted me for themselves. Thank goodness I checked my spam that week, I now work at Microsoft.
mrlalaabout 5 years ago
What a weird article.. first of all, what does <i>sending</i> it with gmail have to do with anything?<p>He says the company is USING gmail to receive.. that&#x27;s where the spam-filter comes in. He could have sent this with any service and it still would have been filtered out.<p>Then he complains about gmail auto-complete? First, I have found it to be quite helpful.. but next, if you don&#x27;t want it to autocomplete then you just keep on typing. Yeah sometimes it might try to correct a specific word.. just like everything else these days. It&#x27;s not always going to be perfect.<p>For someone who is apparently trying to get such a tech job- not understanding the email filter was on the receiving end and he would have hit the same situation no matter what is... quite disturbing. Especially after going through the trouble to write an entire article about it.
unilynxabout 5 years ago
Spam filtering is (mostly) on the receiving side. You have little control over whether or not the recipient is on Google mail. It doesn’t really matter if you send using gmail, and it might be even better for deliverability given the reputation systems in spam filtering
tyrionabout 5 years ago
I do not understand, why we put emails in spam folders instead of rejecting them (as some providers do, e.g. mailbox.org, posteo.de). It may seem weird at first, but at least if something important would end up in Spam, the sender is going to get a notice.
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united893about 5 years ago
This is patently incorrect. The author doesn&#x27;t have any idea on how GMail&#x27;s email filtering works.
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whorleaterabout 5 years ago
Wait I&#x27;m confused, are they <i>not</i> sending around a pdf file for their resume??
blueridgeabout 5 years ago
I am wondering what happened to paragraphs?<p>This one line one sentence style seems to be popular on Medium.<p>But there is no rhythm. There is no flow.<p>Each sentence must have started on separate index cards.<p>Why wouldn&#x27;t you weave them together?<p>So much white space, so many long pauses.<p>Do people enjoy reading this kind of writing?
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lozengeabout 5 years ago
It doesn&#x27;t matter what mail client you use, the issue was at their end
ianmfabout 5 years ago
Another less known fact is that gmail blocks zip files&#x2F;archives that contain executable extensions, scrips, or encrypted filenames. I few months ago I tried sending a document that contained my PII and I was unable to send it because gmail couldn&#x27;t determine the content inside the archive. This feature that should have a on&#x2F;off option IMO.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;mail&#x2F;answer&#x2F;6590?hl=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;mail&#x2F;answer&#x2F;6590?hl=en</a>
ekanesabout 5 years ago
Interesting point. Later in the article, Google Hire is mentioned. The article was written in February (Medium redacts the year) and in Sept Google Hire was sunsetted.
tdy721about 5 years ago
Write it in docs, use a template. Attach a pdf to the email.<p>That being said, if phone numbers are spam, I’ve been typing my phone into email signatures for like ever when I need to.
dan_can_codeabout 5 years ago
I have sent my CV containing both my phone number and email address to various companies and have never encountered this problem. I don&#x27;t think the PDF containing your personal information was the problem, but potentially the individual dealing with your information.
florenabout 5 years ago
Good news if you&#x27;re concerned about Google&#x27;s Hire product: it&#x27;ll be dead by September (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;killedbygoogle.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;killedbygoogle.com&#x2F;</a>)
Fred27about 5 years ago
I recently had gmail putting my outgoing email in my own spam folder rather than sent items. When I&#x27;ve checked I&#x27;ve found that the recipient has received it but it&#x27;s really odd behaviour.
AnonCabout 5 years ago
TL;DR version: Sent CV by email and Gmail put it in the recipient&#x27;s spam folder, which cost this person an interview (the position was filled by the time this was checked). Then the post goes on tangents about Gmail and Google.<p>Forget about a CV, I think it&#x27;s impossible to say which of your emails to any Gmail recipient would even go to their inboxes. Gmail has a very aggressive, as well as stupid, spam filter. I&#x27;ve seen emails go into spam even after adding an address to my contacts list and marking mails in the spam folder from some contacts as Not Spam.<p>When it originally arrived, Gmail really revolutionized how web based email ought to be done. Now it&#x27;s just a bloated and buggy mess that has managed to get a very large user base. I shudder to think how (paid) GSuite accounts also lose genuine emails to spam.
diebeforei485about 5 years ago
Perhaps there should be an interstitial when loading Gmail if there are items in your spam that you haven&#x27;t seen 1-2 days after receiving them.
victor9000about 5 years ago
You can send your resume as a flat PDF to avoid this problem.
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paypalcust83about 5 years ago
Mail it to them in a legal-sized envelope on dead tree carcasses. Harder to ignore, they&#x27;d print it anyhow for candidate finalists, and virus FUD is a non-issue. Send them an email copy as a backup or in-case they need an electronic version too.