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“We don’t get out of bed for less than $10,000 per day.”

291 pointsby azazoabout 14 years ago

15 comments

callmeedabout 14 years ago
Am I being pretentious or unfair for wondering what on earth this blog or author is about?<p>I don't find this specific post terrible, but I'm the type who prefers the advice of people with a track record of success–or, at the very least, who have tried and humbly reflect on their failures. With details.<p>When the most I get from an About page is <i>"I’ve been working and training to be the most skilled strategist of our era."</i> and <i>"I worked as an entrepreneur from 2004 to 2008."</i>, meh ... pass.
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flyosityabout 14 years ago
On a related note, it's really interesting to see how people act when they know they can't motivate someone with money.<p>For example, I used to do client work, but stopped (because I hate it) a few years ago after I sold my design firm. On my blog's contact form I specifically say that I don't do any consulting work, but I still get emails at least once or twice per week from people who want to hire me for iPhone work. I always politely refuse, and thank them for the consideration. Sometimes they'll reply saying "we have a large budget" or something like that, and I'll reply again saying, thanks, but no thanks, it's not about the money. As soon as I say that magical phrase, they just don't know what to say or do because they're used to motivating designers/developers with money. It's actually an interesting sociological situation.
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dasil003about 14 years ago
The first bolded sentence has it very very wrong:<p>&#62; <i>I believe the reason you see sites without ads as superior on some level is because the absolute-highest-quality writers usually don’t have ads.</i><p>And then he goes on to list a bunch of tech entrepreneurial writers. Well I hate to break it to you, but those are not the definition of "the absolute-highest-quality writers". Sure they are <i>very good</i> writers, but their secret sauce is that they are great businessmen too, and so their ideas are valuable if they do any reasonably competent job of communicating them.<p>More importantly, these guys make their money (and a lot of it) elsewhere, so it would be a terrible idea to dilute their brand with cheap ads that were irrelevant to their net worth.<p>It might very well be true that the best writers don't have ads on their site, but my guess is because you can't really make a lot of money from ads unless your audience is massive, and frankly, the audience for very high-quality writing is disturbingly small. By and large people read for content more than quality—this thesis is supported by the fact that the OA considers entrepundits to be the "absolute best". The absolute best writers are probably people who do it professionally, and to do so professionally requires working for an organization that is extracting the true value out of great writing. That is, either a high-brow periodical, or a book publisher.
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luckyisgoodabout 14 years ago
"But as soon as you need money – and people know – you’re hosed."<p>Sales-wise, this is where most companies fail. Their salespeople let buyers know they need money. And as soon as buyers sniff you out, they make you their bitch. If you're a salesperson - and everybody should be - you lose.<p>The trick is to work hard on your attitude until you're ready to walk away from every deal without blinking - even if you really need money. It's really counterintuitive - but winner's attitude works.
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DanielBMarkhamabout 14 years ago
I wrote three comments for this and didn't post any of them, so I obviously have something to say, if I can just get it out :)<p>I think Sebastian is actually answering a different question than he sets out to answer. What I think he's answering is "How do I be cool with what goes on my blog?"<p>If so, it was a pretty long and roundabout way of answering.<p>I usually like Sebastian's work, I just felt this one article had a lot of opinion and a lot of text but not a lot of depth or analysis. It was strangely unsatisfying and frustrating.
ChaseBabout 14 years ago
AdBlock-Plus has made ads virtually irrelevant for me. Sometimes I forget that people are even subjected to them.<p>Last year, while traveling through eastern Asia, I would occasionally drop by an internet cafe. I couldn't believe the amount of ads non-ABP users had to see. It still baffles me.
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petercooperabout 14 years ago
<i>If you’re looking to grow in popularity as quickly as possible and the cash you could get from ads doesn’t matter, then yes, go without ads.</i><p>It's not one way or the other. You can fall in the middle. You can run ads on a site to only non logged in users or only on posts over a certain age. For a long established blog, just running ads on posts over a month old could still cover 50%+ of the pageviews. I use this "trick" myself and the CTRs are great because it's mostly people coming in from search engines who hit those ads rather than my "regulars" :-)
6renabout 14 years ago
I like this. I wonder if there's a google-killer in targeting ads at the quality, or type, that suits you? It would build brands both ways, as the article says. Of course, it's not needed at the high-end of BMW et. al., because they already have full-time staff for this stuff; but there's a huge middle-ground between that and the weight loss ads. Now, how to make it convenient and low-cost enough, to bring those benefits to the next tier, who are presently non-consumers of this service, but would love it (like lionhearted here)?<p>aside: low-cost in this article happen to also be unpleasant; but they needn't coincide. Most disruptions are low-cost (e.g. PCs). They are indeed low-quality, but only with respect to users who already have something better (e.g. mainframes). Google text ads are very low-cost, but also pretty good, especially when related to what you're searching for anyway - this is the idea they copied from (and paid off) overture.com (was: goto.com, now yahoo owns them). I think this was a fantastic idea, even better than google's search, because it aligns everyone's interest, even as it optimizes profit (the auction part).<p>Re: "needing the money": I recently negotiated my highest ever deal (by a significant integer factor). I did it by pretending I didn't need the money. But I really, really did, so this was... stressful. At the last, I gave in; but I estimate I could have gotten an extra $50,000 or so. Oh well, I still did really well. I prefer the article's plan of <i>not actually</i> needing the money. Fortunately, that deal is very close to putting me in that position.
yannickmaheabout 14 years ago
&#62;I believe the reason you see sites without ads as superior on some level is because the absolute-highest-quality writers usually don’t have ads.<p>I think it's the opposite. It's rather because the lowest quality sites on the internet are filled with ads.
statictypeabout 14 years ago
<i>I believe the reason you see sites without ads as superior on some level is because the absolute-highest-quality writers usually don’t have ads.<p>Sites like Paul Graham’s, Eliezer Yudkowsky’s, Mark Cuban’s, and Steve Blank’s don’t have advertisements.</i><p>I've been subscribed to Cuban's feed for some time now and think he has some interesting things to say on occasion but I wouldn't call him a high quality writer. He's not in the same category as the others listed there.
tuhinabout 14 years ago
Few things in the article ring a bell close to me.<p>1)One being the power to choose things without bothering about the money part is like a drug.<p>I still remember the time, when I would take design prjects for as cheap as $20 per hour (which for India's standard is not cheap) but I knew I had to build my name and it was a good enough price to pay for a while.<p>Then I realised that I could do more interesting and challenging personal projects than make sites with no budget and affection for design from the companies' end.<p>2) <i>“You don’t need the money?” – well, 95%+ of people in the world would like more money. Maybe 99%+.</i><p>Well I would say it is 100%. Never come across someone who would say not to money. And no I am not talking moral issues, grey area, lack of time reasons. I am talking reasons where you did not take that money for the sake of not just taking that money.<p>That power of being able to refuse projects left and right and be very picky is what I cherish the most. I might rather just enjoy a quite night with my girlfriend than slog for some work I don't get a thrill out of.
PaulHouleabout 14 years ago
Blogs are one of the worst monetizing categories of sites; a blog has to have a LOT of traffic (like 100k a month) to move the meter, and if you don't get that kind of traffic you're just hurting your credibility by running ads.<p>Sebastian's site doesn't even show up in quantcast, so Sebastian is probably turning up $2.35 a month in ad revenues, if that.
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girlvinylabout 14 years ago
Linda Evangelista is a bad example. She -had- to get out of bed to make money. If she was sick, out of town or otherwise engaged, she couldn't generate revenue. Everything was dependent upon her physically showing up somewhere to do something. Smart people figure out a way to stay in bed and still make the $10k.
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JoelMcCrackenabout 14 years ago
I absolutely agree with everything he said. It mirrors my own opinions on money.
quanabout 14 years ago
I think the reason Linda won't get out of bed for less than $10k is because they pay her that much to stay in bed
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