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UK’s NHS Covid-19 App

52 pointsby milenabout 5 years ago

8 comments

wtraczabout 5 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nhsx&#x2F;COVID-19-app-Android-BETA&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;app&#x2F;src&#x2F;main&#x2F;java&#x2F;uk&#x2F;nhs&#x2F;nhsx&#x2F;sonar&#x2F;android&#x2F;app&#x2F;ble&#x2F;Scanner.kt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nhsx&#x2F;COVID-19-app-Android-BETA&#x2F;blob&#x2F;maste...</a> appears to be looking for Apple devices to wake them back up.
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splatzoneabout 5 years ago
Can someone clearly explain the actual privacy risks of the centralised model (that UK Govt is pursuing) over the decentralised model?<p>My understanding is that in reporting our unique identifiers (and location data?) to the govt servers, this data could be de-anonymised and misused. But what data is actually being reported and how could it be misused?
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bitlevelabout 5 years ago
Having perused their Github, I noted the database for x-rays and scans.<p>&lt;TinFoilHat&gt;This is being run in &#x27;partnership&#x27; with a relative non-entity, who in turn have links to a private American medical company.<p>Not sure I&#x27;m happy with private NHS medical records being slurped up in this way - unless consent is expressly given - which, based on their website that &#x27;anonymizes&#x27; uploaded imagery, I guess we&#x27;ll never know for sure.&lt;&#x2F;TinFoilHat&gt;<p>Good to see the code for both the iOS and Android clients being posted, as this should prove if these clients can ultimately be trusted.
sakisvabout 5 years ago
I think I would feel much better about this if it was accompanied by a legally binding declaration that the only entity that will ever have access to these data will be NHS, explicitly excluding any other government intelligence agency.<p>This is not a stab against the people who developed it, in fact I know some of the people involved in the development of the application and they have the highest ethical standards.<p>The problem is that in the post-Snowden era, no matter the good intentions behind such projects it is naive to not ask for as many safeguards as we possibly can.
abhisuri97about 5 years ago
Well...at least they’re open sourcing this which is better than letting some company develop the app entirely and keep the code under lock and key.
cameronbrownabout 5 years ago
ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION is an immediate red flag. Yikes.. that&#x27;s gonna be a no from me.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nhsx&#x2F;COVID-19-app-Android-BETA&#x2F;blob&#x2F;43a167f8dba422fd9001b64f9c4fd82275abb1c8&#x2F;app&#x2F;src&#x2F;main&#x2F;AndroidManifest.xml" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nhsx&#x2F;COVID-19-app-Android-BETA&#x2F;blob&#x2F;43a16...</a>
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benmmurphyabout 5 years ago
It looks like they are using beacons that are the same for 1 day. I think the google&#x2F;apple version uses beacons that last until the bluetooth MAC address changes which I think is 15 minutes on iOS. So you can setup bluetooth devices around the city to track people&#x27;s movements who are using this app.
Sephiroth87about 5 years ago
Firebase, seriously???
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