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EU-Commissioned Study Proposes European Firewall [pdf]

56 pointsby lftheriosabout 5 years ago

10 comments

blopeurabout 5 years ago
Just pointing out that this is not the EU opinion, all the authors work for <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futurecandy.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futurecandy.com&#x2F;</a><p>&gt; AUTHORS<p>&gt; Nick SOHNEMANN, Future Candy<p>&gt; Lasse Michael UFFRECHT, Future Candy<p>&gt; Marie Constanze HARTKOPF, Future Candy<p>&gt; Jette Paulina KRUSE, Future Candy<p>&gt; Lena Marie de NOELLEN, Future Candy<p>Also WTF the EU is thinking to task what looks like a &quot;house of lies&quot; consulting agency for a Study Digital services<p>look at this presentation they did for EU .. I was expecting a Better of Ted jaberwooky at any moment in the slide deck .. -&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.europarl.europa.eu&#x2F;cmsdata&#x2F;196436&#x2F;IMCO%20KEYNOTE%20FUTURE%20CANDY%20-%20Future%20of%20Digital%20Service%20-%20EU%20Parliament%20Feb%202020%20-%20Nick%20Sohnemann.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.europarl.europa.eu&#x2F;cmsdata&#x2F;196436&#x2F;IMCO%20KEYNOTE...</a>
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dgellowabout 5 years ago
Relevant section:<p>&gt; 5.1. European Cloud &#x2F; European Internet<p>The EU should include an action plan for a digital cloud – a European Internet – in the DSA. This European Cloud would foster a European digital ecosystem based on data and innovation. It would drive competition and set standards. Foreign web services could become part of such a digital ecosystem but must adhere to the rules and standards of the EU – such as democratic values, data protection, data accessibility, transparency and user friendliness.<p>&gt; Technologically, it would require a top-level infrastructure, high-speed 5G or a 6G data network and a firewall. Setting up such a network would promote many European companies and therefore boost business and drive innovation.<p>&gt; Like the Chinese firewall, this European internet would block off services that condone or support unlawful conduct from third party countries.
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ginkoabout 5 years ago
This study was mainly written by this Hamburg-based company: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futurecandy.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;company&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futurecandy.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;company&#x2F;</a>
heinrichhartmanabout 5 years ago
Controversial take:<p>Freedom is not the same thing as anarchy. Freedom comes from Constitution and some form of state that enforces laws, and protects it&#x27;s citizens. (Paraphrasing Lessig&#x27;s CODE 2.0 <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codev2.cc&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codev2.cc&#x2F;</a> from 1999!)<p>Is it possible, that in order to gain freedom the internet has to become <i>more</i> regulated not less?<p>If this is the case, how can we do this?<p>There are no international bodies that have been successful at regulating the internet as a whole. So far regulation of the internet has effectively come from large governments like the US&#x2F;EU which are limited in scope and had great trouble being effectively enforced.<p>Given that there are no global institutions, that can effectively enforce internet regulation: Is there any way around some form of segregation of the internet along national borders (EU&#x2F;US&#x2F;CN&#x2F;..), that allows the states to enforce their rules within their part of the internet, and keep out bad actors from elsewhere?
lftheriosabout 5 years ago
wondering what&#x27;s more disappointing here 1. the quality of discourse in that study 2. the way the EU allocates money on &quot;innovation studies&quot; or 3. their actual recommendations...
cortyabout 5 years ago
They are not even shy to compare their plans to China&#x27;s great firewall. Goes to show that free speech and democracy has never been and continues not to be a European strong point.
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ben_wabout 5 years ago
&gt; The way pores are scattered around the face does not change over time (from adolescence) and cannot actively be changed. Even if the face is partially covered, theseadvanced technologies are still able to recognise the pores in the part of the face that is not covered.<p>This is news to me. Does anyone here know how well that works? It seems to be referring to a product by Identix, but I can’t open their website because their HTTPS certificate isn’t valid.
coldcodeabout 5 years ago
China&#x27;s firewall works because it&#x27;s a single country with an authoritarian government. The EU is more likely a big dysfunctional family. They might want the same thing in the EU, but good luck getting anyone to agree on what it does, much less implement it without leakage.
s9wabout 5 years ago
AUTHORS<p>Nick SOHNEMANN, Future Candy<p>Lasse Michael UFFRECHT, Future Candy<p>Marie Constanze HARTKOPF, Future Candy<p>Jette Paulina KRUSE, Future Candy<p>Lena Marie de NOELLEN, Future Candy<p>Sweet gig for Future Candy
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101404about 5 years ago
Ursula von der Layen&#x27;s nickname is &quot;Zensursula&quot; (Zensur == censorship) for a reason.