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Analysis of dev agencies with hourly rates, team size and tech stack

227 pointsby tombrmabout 5 years ago

21 comments

Etheryteabout 5 years ago
Given how wildly the framework usage [1] differs from the long-standing and well known State of JS survey results [2], I&#x27;d be fairly wary of anything else they claim. Not saying the results are wrong, probably just different samples, more so that it seems the variance is way too high to get any useful insights.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devquarterly.com&#x2F;report&#x2F;q2_2020&#x2F;web#developers_working_with_certain_frameworks_and_libraries" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devquarterly.com&#x2F;report&#x2F;q2_2020&#x2F;web#developers_worki...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;2019.stateofjs.com&#x2F;front-end-frameworks&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;2019.stateofjs.com&#x2F;front-end-frameworks&#x2F;</a>
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edpichlerabout 5 years ago
The first pages made me very skeptical, so I stop to read this. Beyond that there is no data intelligence on these reports, the numbers are weird. It&#x27;s showing Colombia&#x27;s hourly rate more expensive than Sweden&#x27;s. Also, I know very much my homeland market, I am sure that it&#x27;s wrong. I did not go further.
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sacks2kabout 5 years ago
I oversee the hiring of dev shops for a mid-sized company in the US and the rates for e-commerce&#x2F;web development are all in the $120-$150&#x2F;hour range.<p>The funny thing is that some of these companies outsourced to the Ukraine and India and the rates didn&#x27;t change. I would have thought that we would at least see some of the cost savings.<p>Both companies that outsourced ended up being complete disasters (we are still cleaning up the technical debt 3+ years later), which happened before I was involved.<p>Since this is the case, it made no sense to hire any company that didn&#x27;t hire all developers directly in the US or Canada (which is now a requirement).<p>I suppose I should thank these companies, because it&#x27;s the reason I have a job today.
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ravedave5about 5 years ago
Page layout is not great, got to the end and saw founders pictures so I thought that was the whole article. I&#x27;m interested so I reopened to double check and there&#x27;s more on the left.
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numbsafariabout 5 years ago
I’m confused ... this says Andorra has &gt;15k people working at dev agencies. The country has a total population of &lt;100k, most of whom work in the tourism industry.<p>I feel like these numbers don’t add up.
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neomindryanabout 5 years ago
Anyone know why they gave a whole section to &quot;Web&quot; and omitted Ruby? Even C and Visual Basic are present.
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bentonaabout 5 years ago
It&#x27;d be really interesting to see more than just averages for rates. Many dev shops I&#x27;ve interacted with are all right around $250&#x2F;hr here in the US &#x2F; on coasts, I wonder if there are similar standards elsewhere, or different tiers in different areas.
lviceabout 5 years ago
Hourly rates seem very off for Italy as well, as the real average is much much lower to the declared $80&#x2F;hr (web&amp;software). It is especially suspicious that France ($64&#x2F;hr) and Germany ($55&#x2F;hr) have a much lower hourly rate, when in reality salaries and rates in these countries are at least 20-30% higher than Italy.
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Agoreddahabout 5 years ago
These rates are quite interesting. After I did one freelance project (managed team of 3devs, created prototype of 5G API network component), I am thinking about starting my own small software agency. I was expecting to charge 30-35EUR&#x2F;hour (Central Europe region), but according to these rates, my expectations are quite low.<p>Can anyone give me any advice, books or podcasts, how to get better in business negotiation, to be more confident to ask a proper charge?
quxbarabout 5 years ago
Is developer pay in Cyprus and Malaysia really so great, or do a few digital nomads just have their lives really well optimized?
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vmceptionabout 5 years ago
I really like this! It is so hard to find and compare Solidity and Truffle developers for the EVM
realtalk_spabout 5 years ago
The whole site offers a poor UX with weird redundancies, terrible navigation, grammatical errors, etc. It&#x27;s probably sensible to conclude the methods used to gather, clean, and present the data are correspondingly untrustworthy.
vmceptionabout 5 years ago
I wish someone would do this for legal work. I always felt there could be similar plot charts to help reveal the outcome of wildly different needs, and still give a feel for what to expect
andrewonabout 5 years ago
An example of bias sampling? Better to stratify geographical regions.
jen140about 5 years ago
India with 36$&#x2F;hour in &quot;web and software developers&quot;, is it correct ?<p>Portugal with 37$, never seen such salaries here..
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jdxcodeabout 5 years ago
How is Andorra the 9th top country for agency workers? A country of 77k people has 15k agency workers?
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andrewmcwattersabout 5 years ago
These rates are so incredibly off, that this shouldn&#x27;t be taken seriously.
marceloabsousaabout 5 years ago
Is a dev agency basically a consulting company?
bgroatabout 5 years ago
Are all of these values in US dollars?
qaqabout 5 years ago
some numbers are really off Ukraine is over 100k
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chrismorganabout 5 years ago
Something really, <i>really</i> annoying about this site: it uses automatically-progressing carousels that cause content reflow below them in the page.<p>I encounter this sort of thing <i>so often</i>, and it’s really, <i>really</i> bad. Positively <i>awful</i>. <i>Super</i> disconcerting.<p>In most cases like this, it’s just that one slide is longer than the others. In this case, there are a couple like that, but also for the rest, image tags have been used <i>without specifying their dimensions</i>, so they take up no space as the carousel slide enters, and then once the image starts loading they reflow instantaneously as the dimenions are known.<p>Please, if you have a carousel, you <i>must</i> make sure that its height <i>never</i> changes as it progresses. (And please always put width and height on your images, too, so the intrinsic aspect ratio can be applied properly.)<p>Oh, and auto-progressing carousels as a whole are a blight, but a sometimes-just-barely-tolerable one. So long as they’ll <i>just stop progressing once I interact with them! Please!</i><p>Does <i>anyone</i> like carousels? I encounter software developers railing against them, I encounter <i>normal people</i> railing against them (from recently, a non-techie had <i>one request</i> about a new site, that the carousel inserted by the developer of the prototype—because it was a part of the WordPress theme used—be removed), I honestly can’t think of having encountered a single person that <i>likes</i> carousels. They’re just all-round irritating.
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