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Saltpack – A modern crypto messaging format

101 pointsby niksmacabout 5 years ago

8 comments

dwenzekabout 5 years ago
The <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saltpack.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saltpack.org&#x2F;</a> web-site links to a insightful post about authenticated encryption with associated data (AEAD) and the shortcomings addressed by saltpack: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imperialviolet.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;05&#x2F;16&#x2F;aeads.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imperialviolet.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;05&#x2F;16&#x2F;aeads.html</a>
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SEJeffabout 5 years ago
Vaguely related for people who want simple secure encryption tools is Age: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;FiloSottile&#x2F;age" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;FiloSottile&#x2F;age</a>
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edwhitesellabout 5 years ago
Not my areas to comment on the technical details, but have things improved since the first time this was on HN [1]?<p>Seems like some of the choices they made were getting bashed, though I&#x27;m not sure the reasons were more than personal preferences.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14067003" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=14067003</a><p>Edit:typo
atemerevabout 5 years ago
Finally, some attempt to rebuild the transparent, copypastable, text-based crypto message format. Binary messaging is not a replacement.<p>Cannot comment on the crypto part yet, but the general idea is excellent, we need this.
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asdkhadsjabout 5 years ago
Can anyone security minded comment on how this tool compares to the Scuttlebutt Secure Handshake[1]?<p>Notably I&#x27;ve been looking at various modern &quot;safe and easy&quot; crypto tools and found Scuttlebutts handshake interesting. Yet, the entire protocol was a bit difficult to use, and left me with the impression that I&#x27;d have to write a lot myself in my preferred language (Rust) to get a batteries included experience. And, for good reason, I&#x27;m always hesitant to write anything about crypto hah.<p>... though, now that I&#x27;m looking for a Rust salt pack lib, it doesn&#x27;t seem to exist in Rust either. Humm.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ssbc.github.io&#x2F;scuttlebutt-protocol-guide&#x2F;#handshake" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ssbc.github.io&#x2F;scuttlebutt-protocol-guide&#x2F;#handshake</a>
p4bl0about 5 years ago
More interesting details can be found here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saltpack.org&#x2F;encryption-format-v2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;saltpack.org&#x2F;encryption-format-v2</a>
badrabbitabout 5 years ago
This is excellent! We need more work like this that is standardized and stable.<p>From the protocol end, I heard good things about noise [1] but I haven&#x27;t seen acual apps make use of it(Edit: It literaly says &quot;Noise is currently used by WhatsApp, WireGuard, Lightning, and I2P.&quot; On their page). I highly encourage the author of saltpack to keep a reference list of projects that make use of saltpack.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;noiseprotocol.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;noiseprotocol.org&#x2F;</a>
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tex0about 5 years ago
How does it compare to age-encryption.org?
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