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Blogging Is Not Dead

330 pointsby g-garronabout 5 years ago

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foobabout 5 years ago
If you want to see more high quality blog posts, then I highly recommend taking actions to help promote and encourage them. Sign up for a mailing list or subscribe to an RSS feed when you find a blog that consistently produces quality material. Post new or old content on Hacker News, Reddit, Lobsters, Twitter, and other communities where you think they would be a good fit. Upvote and retweet quality content that you run across, and flag stuff that&#x27;s blatantly marketing spam. Leave comments on the blog or reach out to the author over email. Even as a single individual, these sort of actions have a much bigger impact than you might expect.<p>I used to blog extensively, and I&#x27;ve spent a lot of time thinking about this. The content I would write was loosely for marketing purposes, but I put a lot of effort into generating high quality content that I would genuinely enjoy reading myself. An article that I spent 50+ hours on and felt very proud of might have a 30% chance of reaching the front page of Hacker News. A fluffy post with a decent title that I spent only an hour or two on would still have a 10-15% chance of front paging. The way the math works out, it&#x27;s simply much lower ROI to generate quality content. It&#x27;s also a bit heartbreaking to invest a lot of time making something for other people to enjoy only for nobody to ever see it.<p>The second chance queue on Hacker News is a major step in the right direction, and I&#x27;m grateful for all the times where my posts were given another chance. A lot of great content still slips through the cracks however, and relatively small actions by community members would go a long way towards helping incentives align towards generating quality content.
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filmgirlcwabout 5 years ago
Blogging isn&#x27;t dead but blog discovery basically is. Fifteen years ago (through about 2009, I would say -- about the time Facebook demonstrably took over MySpace), there were tons of services and startups built around blog discovery.<p>And even into the early 2010s, Tumblr was still a thriving community that paid host to many different different subcultures and demographics (whereas today, Tumblr is largely fandom).<p>But now? The spammers helped murder the pingback&#x2F;trackback -- RSS is still alive but it is often hidden and isn&#x27;t even always a default for various static site blogging engines -- not to mention the lengths web browsers go to to deny that RSS even exists -- and the art of finding quality like-minded blogs of any size, is incredibly difficult.<p>Google had a blog search part of its search engine but shut that down nearly a decade ago. (Frankly, the fact that Google keeps Blogger running is sort of amazing, although I would be shocked if more than one or two full time employees worked on it -- I have to assume all the maintenance is done by vendors and contractors.)<p>Moreover, we&#x27;ve moved our communications to silos that don&#x27;t allow for easy syndication (you haven&#x27;t been able to auto-publish your blog&#x2F;website to Facebook for years, for instance) or to formats (video), that are reliant on major giants (YouTube, Twitch, and to a lesser but growing extent, TikTok) rather than a user&#x27;s own platform -- and that require a much higher barrier to entry for creators than blogging ever did. Way more people consumed blog content than ever regularly made their own blog -- but now it&#x27;s even greater.<p>But beyond the various platform silos and the move away from decentralized to closed social network behemoths, blogging also never properly embraced mobile. The act of blogging on mobile was too difficult for too long (Tumblr being the one exception), while Facebook and Twitter were quick to become mobile-first (and in Twitter&#x27;s case, was originally designed for mobile).<p>Blogging isn&#x27;t dead but the curation and discovery tools that made it really take off in the 2000s is.<p>As someone who owes their entire career to blogging, this makes me sad. But it is what it is.
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rhackerabout 5 years ago
Get out of the software development blogging bubble. Spend 3 minutes looking at each of the following: Look at woodworking blogs, recipe blogs, gardening blogs.<p>One thing you&#x27;ll note is that those are all filled with a shit fuck ton of ads and are completely unusable.<p>I know this because my wife wades through that stuff and the only way she can is by using a blocker. I don&#x27;t use a blocker because very few of the software specific websites I visit have ads (generally).<p>Recipe blogs are the worst - here&#x27;s a sample from pinch of yum:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;A4e53R5" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;A4e53R5</a>
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jakevoytkoabout 5 years ago
We&#x27;re overly attached to a specific idea of a &quot;blog&quot;. In practice, &quot;web logging&quot; never died, even if the specific blog format has diminished over time.<p>Blogs are websites that host posts in chronological order, but defined in a very specific way that excludes your Facebook and Twitter. The difference isn&#x27;t self-hosting - Blogger and Wordpress.com host your blog. I reckon the difference is aggregation. Facebook groups your posts with posts from everyone else. They get to curate individual feeds. People with money get to bypass the curation a little.<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I have my own blog (link in profile) and I deleted my Facebook account years ago. But quite honestly, the format is less usable than having centralized aggregators that float the most popular content to the top. This is why we&#x27;re all on Hacker News, right? The act of having the aggregator allows extra features to be overlayed, like community discussion. Are aggregators the &quot;best&quot; format by every metric? No, but it allows me to read content I like without doing a lot of work, so here I am.
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softwaredougabout 5 years ago
It all changed when marketing firms latched onto &quot;blogging&quot;<p>Now it&#x27;s sadly the case a lot of blogs don&#x27;t have a lot of content, are full of SEO boilerplate, with click-bait headlines instead of being interesting or well written. Some blogs are great, well-written lead ins that end with &quot;to get the end of this story, contact our sales person for a demo!&quot;. Or there&#x27;s the form that pops up that really, really wants your email address for a GREAT newsletter!<p>I think when a company has a &#x27;blog&#x27; it really needs to fulfill a contract of actually providing useful, interesting content. It&#x27;s the only way, honestly, your brand will build long term trust. Otherwise don&#x27;t call it a &#x27;blog&#x27; call it &#x27;marketing information&#x27; or something...
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djsumdogabout 5 years ago
I still had that previous article the author references in another tab[2].<p>Yes, use an RSS Reader. RSS is not dead[0]. Hackernews often has blog posts. If you see a post you like, go to the main page and see if you like any of the other posts. If it&#x27;s a blog you think you want to follow, subscribe to it. If, after a few months, you find none of the articles are interesting and often mark them all read, then just unsubscribe.<p>If you blog, cross-promote it on Reddit, Twitter, your FB page (although if you don&#x27;t use Twitter&#x2F;FB often, it&#x27;ll be just a trickle of clicks[1], but it&#x27;s better than nothing), etc. Try not to use another platforms just to promote you. If you see blog posts you like, be sure to promote them!<p>Maybe use one of your RSS reader apps just to dump one of those huge github aggregated blog lists with like 500 tech and personal blogs. You can scroll through it when you&#x27;re bored and see if there&#x27;s anything interesting and mark the rest as read.<p>Maybe setup your own Solr server to index every blog you come across just for the hell of it? (I&#x27;ve been meaning to do this forever!) The big search engines aren&#x27;t good at showing us blogs, so maybe it&#x27;s up to us to find and promote them?<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;battlepenguin.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;rss-the-original-federated-social-network-protocol&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;battlepenguin.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;rss-the-original-federated-so...</a><p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;battlepenguin.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;facebook-and-the-silent-bob-effect&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;battlepenguin.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;facebook-and-the-silent-bob-e...</a><p>[2]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tttthis.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;if-i-could-bring-one-thing-back-to-the-internet-it-would-be-blogs" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tttthis.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;if-i-could-bring-one-thing-back-to-t...</a>
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ramkarthikkabout 5 years ago
There are many blogs today but when (many) people say they miss the old days of blogging, it is mostly not about the number of blogs.<p>Back then, there was a huge community around blogs. That community has moved to Twitter and other places. Previously, people would comment on blogs and if you are a frequent reader of a blog, you would recognize a lot of people who comment there and you may even become friends with them. Constructive comments have moved away from the blogs and are now on Twitter, Hacker News, Reddit etc.<p>There used to be services specifically around the blogging space, like Technorati (and even StumbleUpon to an extent).<p>I also feel, and this might just be me, people have started associating purpose with mediums. If you want to post silly or just casual stuff, you post it on Twitter. If you have something really valuable and on brand, you post it on your blog. People used to post everything to their blogs because that&#x27;s where they could previously share their thoughts.
bovermyerabout 5 years ago
I don&#x27;t think the volume of blogging decreased. It probably increased.<p>The reason some people think blogging is dead is because the blog &quot;signal&quot; is much, much quieter than the social media &quot;noise.&quot; It&#x27;s a question of comparative volume.
xwdvabout 5 years ago
Blogging is not dead, it&#x27;s just being rapidly made obsolete by commenting.<p>Comments are everywhere. Total volume of comments on the internet compared to blogs is larger by several orders of magnitude. Readership is up, <i>everything</i> has comments. Comments don&#x27;t care about SEO, or money, or fame, that makes them one of the purest forms of content you can find on the internet. You could argue that some sites have people commenting for fame because of karma systems, but ultimately that karma means nothing. Very few comments have ever &quot;gone viral&quot; the way a blog or youtube or tiktok video tries so hard to. Comments are like graffiti; ephemeral, and meant to be enjoyed in the moment you stumble across them. Very few comments make any kind of money for their author the way a blog does.<p>Marketing firms have not latched onto comments yet the way they latch onto blogs. But when they do, it&#x27;s over.
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skybrianabout 5 years ago
&quot;X is alive &#x2F; X is dead&quot; is binary thinking and taking sides on this is pointless and divisive. Better to use a float rather than a boolean to model how popular something is.
avianabout 5 years ago
&gt; We also have webmentions, so, if bloggers start using it, it will help us find other&#x27;s blogs.<p>My informal research [1] shows approximately zero adoption of webmention. For 44 blog posts I have written in the past two years, I did not have a single external link to a host that would support it.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tablix.org&#x2F;~avian&#x2F;blog&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;checking_webmention_adoption_rate&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tablix.org&#x2F;~avian&#x2F;blog&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;checking...</a>
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shruubiabout 5 years ago
I&#x27;ve tried blogging in the past, but have since given up on it. I found that I was putting in a lot of time and effort to have my work read by maybe 3-5 people and came to the conclusion that I had nothing interesting or worthwhile to contribute or say, nor am I a person who can compete with the usual horde of twitter-tech-celebrities who seemingly control a majority of the audience.<p>These days, whether it be blogs or social media, the end goal is becoming less about saying something worthwhile and more about building and maintaining some kind of personal brand. So while I&#x27;ll continue being another worthless face in the crowd, consuming content, I also won&#x27;t mourn the death of blogging or any other similar forms.
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Hoasiabout 5 years ago
Blogging is not dead. It is just unevenly discoverable.<p>And that creates an interesting problem that is still waiting for a solution.
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TrackerFFabout 5 years ago
Is it a cultural thing that differs from country to country? Here in Norway, the best paid &quot;influencers&quot; are still bloggers - though they are obviously on all channels these days.<p>edit: But what I&#x27;m trying to get at is, no, at least here - blogs are not dead and forgotten &#x2F; some esoteric channel for the very few.
dnissleyabout 5 years ago
The blog discovery story is terrible, which I think is the only thing that would make someone say that blogging is dead. Anyone know of any good solutions for this?<p>I&#x27;ve been kicking around an idea about manually associating blogs to twitter accounts, and then using twitter follows to create a graph for discovery purposes.
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vinceguidryabout 5 years ago
A blogger I used to follow, Steve Pavlina, shut down his forums like in 2011 after 5 years of running them stating that they were always completely irrelevant to his biz model. He&#x27;s still posting to his blog, daily, having started in 2004. Still going strong after 15 years.
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PerilousDabout 5 years ago
The original article was crap since the author stated &quot;spent an hour trying to find blog and ...nothing&quot; Any reasonable response would have been an hour trying to figure out where the &quot;return&quot; key was is NOT the same thing as an hour spent searching. Blog, by folks that don&#x27;t give a crap about Googles SEO requirements exist, have existed and will still exist in the future.
abbadaddaabout 5 years ago
I wonder if a dedicated company could build a non-privacy invasive RSS reader that could: (1) show targeted ads based on a user&#x27;s curated blog feed; (2) Develop a profit-sharing model for those authors that generate the most traffic. I&#x27;m kind of thinking like hackernews but (A) user-curated content; and (B) Advertising; and (C) optional subscriptions to support the bloggers. There could of course be a discovery mode to find new blogs, but the default would be user-curated. To ensure payments were significant enough to overcome the micropayment problem, perhaps a &quot;minimum payout&quot; could be set for authors so they could accumulate proceeds (and see <i>some</i> fruits of their labor without having to set up their own individual payment system) even if they couldn&#x27;t withdraw them yet. If someone really was motivated they might even be able to set this up as a non-profit. Just kind of a brain dump. Thinking of this as &quot;the front page for blogs&quot; by bloggers for bloggers (instead of a big corporation whose primary objective is to generate profits, which is exceedingly difficult with traditional RSS feeds). Fraud and spoofing views would be an obvious challenge of this framework.
juliend2about 5 years ago
I think psychology needs to be taken into account here:<p>The currency we have right now on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook is reputation. There, it&#x27;s in the form of Followers. That&#x27;s the very currency that Stack Overflow uses to grow and sustain.<p>It&#x27;s &quot;gamified&quot;. And the blogosphere needs that, too.<p>And in a way, blogs have that, but it&#x27;s in the form of Reddit and HN and some other sites, where people get their karma fix by taking the time to read the blog post (upfront time investment), comment on it (risk losing karma), then get their comment being liked (return on investment), which augment their karma.<p>(Facebook does not have a Karma system like Reddit or HN has. But if it would, it would make the world a bit more like a certain black mirror episode of season 2.)<p>Why do you see coders put their reddit+HN profile links on their site? Because they want their reputation&#x2F;karma&#x2F;notoriety to follow them in real-life context, so it can be converted as real &quot;notoriety currency&quot;. (people looking at their profile will say Gosh, this guy has 2000 points on SO and 4000 points on HN, he must be very smart or influent!).<p>So my guess is that the reason blogs still exist is because of sites like Reddit, HN, where people can get reputation (and not only knowledge) out of their reading. There&#x27;s also something satisfying in the act of praising a good post with your friends. It&#x27;s like watching a good movie and talking about how good it is with your friends.<p>And blogs also survived because that still being viewed as THE most professional was of expressing one&#x27;s opinions. It gives you gravitas by default when you have your own blog, compared to having a Twitter &#x2F; Facebook account like the plebs.<p>And you get the best of both worlds when you promote your blog posts on social networks.
ipiz0618about 5 years ago
Didn&#x27;t think blogging even dying given the number of high quality blog posts from personal blogs &#x2F; Medium on HN. Some dev.to posts really resemble blog posts as well.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s a developer specific culture?
masswerkabout 5 years ago
I&#x27;d say, there are significantly less high frequency blogs than, say, 10 years ago. One of the reasons for this is the radical decline in means of monetization. In the heyday of blogging, you could do it for living, with just a few non-obtrusive ads. Which has changed a lot. Even, if you would plaster your site with ads, like news outlets, with little room left for actually reading, chances are, you won&#x27;t see much of a return. As a result, blogging is mostly a hobbyist endeavor (again).
lazarousabout 5 years ago
I&#x27;d welcome some feedback. I&#x27;m hoping to start a blog based around my hobby and findings. It won&#x27;t be anything ground breaking but I&#x27;d like somewhere to put my thoughts and feelings. I feel people may enjoy the content and pictures.<p>Do you think its worth me creating a blog like this, hoping that one day I could build up an organic following and potentially monetise it?
cagefaceabout 5 years ago
Content on open platforms like blogs and podcasts has two serious handicaps. First, it doesn&#x27;t have any built in system for liking, commenting on and sharing content. Second, there is no low-friction way to monetize it except for advertising.<p>I don&#x27;t see any easy, scalable solutions to these problems but until they&#x27;re solved open platforms will cater to niche audiences.
type0about 5 years ago
It is kinda dead, not in a way BBS is dead, or even IRC. Anecdotally less and less blogs enable comments or curate the comment spam. I even see some HN users advice their readers to use this site for comments where there previously had a comments section. Certain Disqus&#x27;ting services did not help this blogging demise.
gtrubetskoyabout 5 years ago
Related - see my Ask HN on <i>how</i> to host your own blog without giving it to the centralized blogging services (I won&#x27;t name):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23206094" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23206094</a>
tracker1about 5 years ago
From a blog without an RSS feed...
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imprettycoolabout 5 years ago
The nice thing about RSS is that it&#x27;s never gonna die
klysmabout 5 years ago
It’s really interesting that HN can be a long term asynchronous channel for discourse through independent blogs
alexmingoiaabout 5 years ago
What makes content discoverable on Twitter? Reposting and linking to other posts.<p>Bloggers should do more of that.
milapabout 5 years ago
We need youtube for bloggers.
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NN88about 5 years ago
Google reader killed it.<p>Not to mention, Reddit won&#x27;t let you post blogs to their largest subreddits.
ManoSinkosikaabout 5 years ago
Your content is great. I think blogging will never be dead