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“Indie” doesn't mean “bootstrapped” anymore

67 pointsby ojosilvaalmost 5 years ago

8 comments

DizzyDooalmost 5 years ago
I&#x27;ve been a full-time &#x27;indie&#x27; computer game developer for about five years now and in the gamedev space &#x27;indie&#x27; hasn&#x27;t really meant any one thing for most of the last decade. I&#x27;m a solo guy who does art &amp; animation, programming, writing, marketing, and so on (I have an accountant and I contracts a friend who helps with the music), working on original IP, with no outside inventment, self-publishing - which is about as &#x27;indie&#x27; as it gets, I suppose. However, &#x27;indie&#x27; is often applied to teams of 20+ people, sometimes either with outside investment, or who work with publishing companies. Lots of publishers are &#x27;indie publishers&#x27; too, operations are built to work with smaller teams and budgets.<p>And I&#x27;m totally fine with all of that! Proclaiming that &quot;I&#x27;m indier than thou&quot; might get you some (utterly meaningless) clout with... well, I don&#x27;t know who. The main thing is I find encouraging is there&#x27;s a number of proven ways to run a sustainable software business. And that&#x27;s nice to know, because if at some point I need to or want to change how I&#x27;m doing things, it isn&#x27;t a one-size-fits-all scenario.
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hermitcrabalmost 5 years ago
Being independent isn&#x27;t a binary yes&#x2F;no thing. But people who built their business from their own savings are a lot more independent than people who took investment, whatever the source.
jupedalmost 5 years ago
If you have minority shareholders, you&#x27;re not really independent. If you debt finance, you&#x27;re still independent, IMO.
GoatOfAplombalmost 5 years ago
When I depended on poker for my income, I always thought one should work up to the next higher-stake game by building a bankroll at one&#x27;s current level. People who moved up in betting limits via someone else&#x27;s money rarely survived there (the level of play tends to increase with higher stakes).<p>I see a fair amount of discussion about the &quot;what is indie&quot; angle here, but I most appreciated this article for pointing out various funding options that do not carry hyper-growth expectations. I suppose taking any money at all violates the rules of my previous paragraph, but it still seems closer in spirit than traditional VC. I don&#x27;t know that I&#x27;ll ever attempt to start a business again, but if I did, I would certainly look more into those options.
kumarmalmost 5 years ago
Indie Hackers has been a great resource for a long time and filled a need. Hope in search for growth, IH doesn&#x27;t lose its soul.
jv22222almost 5 years ago
&gt; Jason Fried of Basecamp ... who&#x27;d somehow found a way to make millions of dollars building SaaS apps without raising any funding.<p>It&#x27;s a common misconception to think that Basecamp never took any investment but in fact they did from Jeff Bezos.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;signalvnoise.com&#x2F;archives2&#x2F;bezos_expeditions_invests_in_37signals.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;signalvnoise.com&#x2F;archives2&#x2F;bezos_expeditions_invests...</a><p>That said, it helps prove the OP point that&#x27;s it&#x27;s possible to raise funds and remain independent.
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Ididntdothisalmost 5 years ago
&quot;Indie&quot; has been marketed into meaninglessness like &quot;Agile&quot;, &quot;Hacker&quot; or &quot;Mindfulness&quot;. These terms usually lose their meaning once they go mainstream and become cool.
buboardalmost 5 years ago
It&#x27;s like music