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Bill Proposed to Outlaw End to End Encryption

91 pointsby WA9ACEalmost 5 years ago

12 comments

dangalmost 5 years ago
Proposed bills almost never go anywhere [1], so barring something highly unusual, it&#x27;s best to wait for a state change with more signal, a.k.a. significant new information (SNI) [2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;query=by%3Adang%20bills&amp;sort=byDate&amp;type=comment" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;que...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=false&amp;query=by%3Adang%20%22significant%20new%20information%22&amp;sort=byDate&amp;type=comment" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=false&amp;qu...</a>
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cmdshiftf4almost 5 years ago
&gt;Incentivizes technical innovation.<p>&gt;Directs the Attorney General to create a prize competition to award participants who create a lawful access solution in an encrypted environment, while maximizing privacy and security.<p>Is this a joke?
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madamelicalmost 5 years ago
The hilarious part is the widespread demand for encrypted communication happened because of privacy invasions by the government.<p>The Streisand Effect for communication.
bonestamp2almost 5 years ago
The funny thing is, the government spying on citizens without a warrant is what popularized this technology with consumers to begin with. So, are we really going to trust them to get a warrant next time?
jonas_kgomoalmost 5 years ago
Does this mean we could no longer use WhatsApp, FaceTime, Signal, and other simple peer-to-peer projects ? Export of cryptography was written for the Cold War but still affects developers today. It wouldn&#x27;t be a surprise if that is the case since Daniel Bernstein already took a case against US Dept Justice.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bernstein_v._United_States" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bernstein_v._United_States</a>
echelonalmost 5 years ago
We&#x27;re becoming more Orwellian day by day.<p>And our children&#x27;s children will wake up in a world that looks like communist China. Where every move we make is monitored, every interaction is scored, and every associate we have implicates us.<p>Computers are a fantastic gift, but they&#x27;re being used to turn us into cattle.
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ferossalmost 5 years ago
“A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit”<p>The average age of US Senators is 61.8 years, nearly the oldest in U.S. history. Our policy-makers are seniors who won&#x27;t be around to suffer under the consequences of their bad policy.
marricksalmost 5 years ago
Oh don&#x27;t worry folks, it only applies to &quot;terrorists and other bad actors&quot;.<p>God how terrifying, luckily its just 3 arch republicans proposing it, Graham, Cotton, Blackburn.<p>God knows though during the next national security crises all democrats will be onboard.
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meddlepalalmost 5 years ago
This is inevitable whether this bill passes or not. There&#x27;s simply too many political points to score here and little downsides as far as the government is actually concerned.
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Animatsalmost 5 years ago
It&#x27;s not in the bill system at &quot;congress.gov&quot; yet.
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mark-ralmost 5 years ago
So is this broad enough to make https illegal?
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scarface74almost 5 years ago
And this is the same government that HN users consistently want to “regulate tech”.....