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Xinjiang is prototype for fully totalitarian state: Taiwan minister

157 pointsby baylearnalmost 5 years ago

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idealsalmost 5 years ago
<i>So I am at once digital minister, that&#x27;s my day job. But I&#x27;m also moonlighting as a civic hacker,&quot; Tang said. &quot;I see myself as a channel, as a bridge, as a Lagrangian point between civic movements on one side and government on the other.&quot;</i><p>I wish we had people like her running things in the US.
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OliverTowersalmost 5 years ago
Everyone is too afraid to even comment
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frequentnapperalmost 5 years ago
She specifically warns about chinese companies inflitrating infrastructure and the Canadian govt just handed over our embassy security to them: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nationalpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;chinese-government-owned-firm-wins-6-8m-contract-to-supply-security-equipment-to-canada-embassies#:~:text=from%20our%20team.-,Chinese%20government%2Downed%20firm%20wins%20%246.8M%20contract%20to%20supply,customs%20offices%20in%20160%20countries" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nationalpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;chinese-government-owned-firm-...</a>.
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usuialmost 5 years ago
This article notes that Tang is a digital minister and has experience with information technology. My impression is that Taiwan has a very healthy and balanced demographic of politicians. I have seen Taiwanese mathematicians, doctors, engineers, and chemists fill important government roles involving the spotlight and advocacy. It seems that people of technical expertise in Taiwan have an equally viable chance at entering politics and policy-making.<p>This is not to say that scientists, engineers, or doctors make for better policymakers. Perhaps there is a case to be made that career politicians have skillsets that validate the need to specialize in politics. However, the stereotype of career politicians is that of ignorance with no understanding of subject matter for the things that they make policies for. This impression was cemented further after the hearing between Zuckerberg and Congress about Facebook. This video even plays it for laughs: &quot;Zuckerberg explains the internet to Congress&quot;, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ncbb5B85sd0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ncbb5B85sd0</a>. For the government to help its people, it needs to incentivize diversity within its ranks so that it can understand the variety of issues that it faces. It also needs to be able to adapt to changing realities.<p>Regarding what Tang talks about: I frequently think that what is happening over there are the emulations of unethical experiments (I hear the TV show Black Mirror is similar) that the Western world would never be able to pull off. Regardless of where one stands on this issue, I do not think it can be denied that a lot can be learned about how these systems operate at scale or how the machine runs. From the reports and stories that we get to hear about, it seems like the Chinese government is implementing technology at scales that most countries could ever dream of doing.<p>Or rather, most countries could only dream of creating technological systems of control with the degree of acceptance by the populace, with degree of penetration and overall dissemination. Western governments have implemented comparable systems, like the ones that Edward Snowden pointed out. However, if governments did not worry about hiding questionable activity, maybe it could double down on the level of sophistication and expand on its capabilities.
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galaxyLogicalmost 5 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Taiwan" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Taiwan</a> :<p>&quot;In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the ROC transitioned from a one-party military dictatorship to a multi-party democracy with a semi-presidential system.&quot;
amaialmost 5 years ago
Clockwork Mandarin:<p>Russian original: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;les.media&#x2F;articles&#x2F;863622-zavodnoy-mandarin" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;les.media&#x2F;articles&#x2F;863622-zavodnoy-mandarin</a><p>Englisch translation: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bylinetimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;11&#x2F;18&#x2F;beyond-orwells-worst-nightmares-how-china-uses-artificial-intelligence-to-commit-genocide&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bylinetimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;11&#x2F;18&#x2F;beyond-orwells-worst-nigh...</a><p>German translation: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dekoder.org&#x2F;de&#x2F;article&#x2F;uiguren-kasachen-china-xinjiang" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dekoder.org&#x2F;de&#x2F;article&#x2F;uiguren-kasachen-china-xi...</a>
winridalmost 5 years ago
Didn&#x27;t read article yet, but when I was in Xinjiang it was an area with very high security (more cameras, more police with guns, giant vehicle barricades around elementary schools).<p>If you ask the locals, they&#x27;ll tell you it&#x27;s to protect them from the Uighurs. It seems the conflict there is (was?) a real problem, with Han Chinese being murdered regularly with some communities having to put the men on watch at night.
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