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T-Mobile: Are you blocking specific words and suspending accounts?

167 pointsby QUFBalmost 5 years ago

13 comments

Someone1234almost 5 years ago
There&#x27;s two different but both problematic things here:<p>- Really poorly written spam detection.<p>- Failure to notify customers&#x2F;no remediation procedure.<p>No doubt people will bring up &quot;but then the spammers will know!!&quot; Or similar, but honestly spammers are already limited by the cost of buying SIM cards ($5&#x2F;ea), and I feel like customers being negatively impacted outweighs the <i>minor</i> benefit to spam-fighting (particularly when spammers could buy a single second number and detect this 100% of the time anyway).<p>Plus I&#x27;d be pretty upset if I was a customer paying for service, and I lost access to a part of that service for 10 days because I sent the word &quot;butt&quot; in a conversation. I&#x27;d feel particularly irritated if I wasn&#x27;t told that my messages weren&#x27;t delivered, and vital ones were just going into a void.
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tyingqalmost 5 years ago
PayPal has a similar problem. They do really loose string matching on the OFAC list[1], for any data, in any payment field...even a comment. Match a magic string in a comment, and your PayPal account gets locked down in a way that&#x27;s very hard to undo.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.treasury.gov&#x2F;resource-center&#x2F;sanctions&#x2F;sdn-list&#x2F;pages&#x2F;default.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.treasury.gov&#x2F;resource-center&#x2F;sanctions&#x2F;sdn-list&#x2F;...</a>
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Hippocratesalmost 5 years ago
This is a great reminder to switch from SMS to something that is e2e encrypted.
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simonebrunozzialmost 5 years ago
T-mobile is a joke. I lost my @simon Twitter account [0] because of T-mobile&#x27;s and Twitter&#x27;s utter incompetence, and it took me more than 3 months to regain control of it.<p>The way the attacker gained control of my phone number should have never been possible. I&#x27;m still a customer, why? Because there&#x27;s no better alternative in the US, although I&#x27;m pondering Google Fi at the moment. Thoughts?<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@simon&#x2F;mobile-twitter-hacked-please-help-2f65c691edf8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@simon&#x2F;mobile-twitter-hacked-please-help-...</a>
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timeinputalmost 5 years ago
I ran into this a few months ago when texting the phrase &quot;work from home&quot; it was really strange. We rationalized it with the spam &#x2F; phishing thought process, but it still seems wrong for the carriers to block messages so poorly.<p>It makes me wonder if I really want them filtering &#x27;spam&#x27; calls.<p><i>tinfoil hat</i> maybe that&#x27;s their end game!
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jasodealmost 5 years ago
From the scant details about the word <i>&quot;BELLY&quot;</i> triggering the blocks, it looks like some hypothesize it&#x27;s a &quot;Scunthorpe&quot; type of programming bug:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Scunthorpe_problem" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Scunthorpe_problem</a>
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chevmanalmost 5 years ago
T-Mobile has also not been approving new short codes on their network since earlier this year. Frustrating for folks trying to execute legit SMS comms.
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zachrosealmost 5 years ago
I’ve been developing SMS chatbots and using my T-Mobile phone for testing. They will also drop messages that contain URLs, although the rules for which TLDs are allowed are hard to reverse engineer, much less rationalize. Last I remember, .club URLs are blocked, .com is allowed, and bit.ly is allowed.
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dogma1138almost 5 years ago
Are US carriers even allowed to do this?
Scoundrelleralmost 5 years ago
Bell and Telus in Canada we’re doing this. But only if your SMS contained the term « secure message ». Strange to say the least.
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dredmorbiusalmost 5 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;tmobile&#x2F;comments&#x2F;i1fk1z&#x2F;tmobile_are_you_blocking_specific_words_and&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;tmobile&#x2F;comments&#x2F;i1fk1z&#x2F;tmobile_are...</a>
speedgoosealmost 5 years ago
Facebook Messenger does the same with some porn links.
wdr1almost 5 years ago
TL;DR: spam detection is hard
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