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The US declared war on TikTok because it can’t handle the truth

49 pointsby woldemariamalmost 5 years ago

9 comments

throwaway0a5ealmost 5 years ago
TikTok is just the straw that broke the camel&#x27;s back.<p>The US was never going to perpetually entertain a lop side trade relationship with a wealthy country that had the kind of human rights and foreign policy situation the west traditionally only ignores if you&#x27;re poor.<p>It just so happens that the current administration is not run by political professionals so it comes across like a toddler throwing a tantrum and obviously many people take significant issue with the specific policies presented (i.e. this whole TikTok debacle).<p>Make no mistake, regardless of who&#x27;s in the oval office next February we are in for cooler trade relations with China. This has been a long time coming and there&#x27;s bipartisan support. The left is no fan of off-shoring industry to places with more lax worker and environmental protections. The right is no fan of doing business with a bunch of reds who hate religious freedom. Neither side is a fan of either of those things coming at the expense of working class Americans.
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shrewduseralmost 5 years ago
censorship and spying by the CCP is an important issue, but i don&#x27;t understand why anyone should let chinese apps operate in their market when china doesn&#x27;t reciprocate.<p>the trade issue alone is enough for me to support banning it the rest is just noise.
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simion314almost 5 years ago
As a person outside US I think the truth is more simpler, the China economic war is the topic Trump uses to win the election, is the exact thing with the immigrants and the wall.<p>TikTok is just the next step, I am expecting that all the bad things and Trump failures(no wall, COVID) will be blamed on China and after Trump will make China pay it will rain with money.
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giarcalmost 5 years ago
In my opinion, Trump is doing this so that on September 16th (or whatever the date is now) he can proclaim how good of a business man he is, how he is such a deal maker and can bring companies to the USA. He won on that moniker the first time, he realizes he isn&#x27;t going to win on the &quot;best economy ever&quot;.
rbeckeralmost 5 years ago
It is worth noting the article author may be motivated by prejudice: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Talk:Sarah_Jeong#Actual_language_from_her_tweets" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Talk:Sarah_Jeong#Actual_langua...</a>
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afrojack123almost 5 years ago
More like TikTok declared war on America.
bassman9000almost 5 years ago
<i>Sarah Jeong</i><p>Dropped. There&#x27;s no way this article is not extremely biased and purposefully deceiving.
082349872349872almost 5 years ago
I watched <i>Enchanted</i> several years ago with a child who was disappointed that it didn&#x27;t follow the clear-cut good triumphs over evil happily-ever-after fairy tale tropes.<p>I bet that no-longer-a-child would rebel if they, at the age they are now, were forced to consume fairy tale fare instead of more plausible plots.<p>(Bonus clip: Cinderella meets a handyman prince <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=XQYNUwYHV1c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=XQYNUwYHV1c</a><p>What do you think of that invention, Elon Musk?)
ericmayalmost 5 years ago
&gt; The executive order is instead better understood as an attempt to bully companies into regulating speech according to the government’s tastes.<p>Hmm. But what if the Chinese use Tik Tok or other social media companies to spread anti-American or pro-Chinese dystopia propaganda? We&#x27;ve seen how susceptible people are to disinformation, so should we trust an opponent (let&#x27;s not pretend China isn&#x27;t since we already tried to work with them) with social media applications in the US or west at large?<p>That&#x27;s aside from, well, if you&#x27;re going to ban and restrict US companies from spreading free speech then I just don&#x27;t see why we should let China use our strength against us. Idk why people think that anybody (Americans included) will just always &quot;choose Democracy&quot; or w&#x2F;e - we&#x27;re clearly susceptible to mind infections and herd mentality toward really dumb ideas. China can use free speech in the US against us. We do need to protect against that.<p>At a minimum we need to make Chinese companies store their data about Americans within the US and it needs to be routinely audited.
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