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Bitcoin-collateralized loans coming to Coinbase

58 pointsby abialmost 5 years ago

11 comments

lz400almost 5 years ago
Seeing bitcoin reinvent the banking system they set themselves to destroy has a very Animal Farm-y feeling to it.
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spiralmost 5 years ago
ETH-collateralized loans are permissionlessly accessible on the Ethereum blockchain. Right now it&#x27;s a 0% APR.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;oasis.app&#x2F;borrow" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;oasis.app&#x2F;borrow</a><p>You can also get a Bitcoin-collateralized loan using the same service. A Bitcoin loan on the Ethereum blockchain. But, it&#x27;s less secure because the WBTC &quot;Wrapped Bitcoin&quot; token on Ethereum relies on a network of custodians who redeem these tokens for actual BTC.
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marcellalmost 5 years ago
Aside from the brand name of Coinbase, this seems worse than similar offering from Nexo (nexo.io):<p>- Coinbase APR is 8%, Nexo is 5.9%<p>- Coinbase max loan is $20k, Nexo is $2 million<p>I can see the appeal of borrowing against your bitcoin or other cryptocurrency, but I&#x27;m not sure if there&#x27;s much value in borrowing $20k. If you&#x27;re in a position to hold $60k bitcoin on Coinbase, do you really have a need for a 1 year bridge loan of $20k? At a rate only slightly better than a credit card?
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raesene9almost 5 years ago
I wonder how they&#x27;re hedging the risk of Tether&#x2F;Bitfinex losing their case(s) against the NYAG and others and the likely resultant drop in value of BTC.
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zalkotaalmost 5 years ago
Ethereum decentralized finance is not “copying” the current financial institutions. If you think that, then you are misinformed.
ur-whalealmost 5 years ago
This is a very interesting development, especially given Coinbase&#x27;s reach and visibility.<p>The unfortunate effect might be that people who have been so far stubbornly HODLing their BTC themselves (self-custody) will be tempted to surrender their coins to the exchange in exchange of immediate liquidity thereby increasing the concentration of <i>actual</i> custody of BTC by the exchanges ... the very thing Bitcoin was designed to avoid.<p>The temptation here is (at least on paper): you get to &quot;keep&quot; your Bitcoin while enjoying the benefit of them at the same time (betting. of course, that BTC will keep going up over time).<p>Here&#x27;s to hoping hodlers will resist the temptation.
jtchangalmost 5 years ago
Sounds like a terrible idea given how much bitcoin&#x27;s value can fluctuate. And they may call the loan. This is if you are really bullish on bitcoin.
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RichardHeartalmost 5 years ago
Cryptocurrency was invented to remove middlemen and counterparty risk. Centralized finance (lending&#x2F;borrowing) is the opposite of what Bitcoin was invented for. Decentralized finance extends Bitcoins vision beyond the small subset of finance that is currency. One such open source project is uniswap. Disclaimer, I founded a cryptocurrency.
solotronicsalmost 5 years ago
A lot of people are missing the fact that loans are not taxed in the US.
aptaalmost 5 years ago
Lending money with interest has been a known evil for thousands of years now, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all prohibit it. Yet, we do not learn from the past.
mrkrameralmost 5 years ago
Coinbase is supported by Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan[1][2] no wonder they told them to start giving loans and turned them into a bank. Satoshi wouldn&#x27;t like this; you can make smart contracts directly on the blockchain and give loans if you want.<p>[1]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20130109041534&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.coinbase.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;39672092708&#x2F;fred-ehrsam-joins-coinbase" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20130109041534&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.coin...</a><p>[2]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;jpmorgan-extends-banking-services-to-bitcoin-exchanges-11589281201?redirect=amp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;jpmorgan-extends-banking-servic...</a>