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Mystery of interstellar visitor 'Oumuamua gets trickier

227 pointsby Osiris30almost 5 years ago

26 comments

kentonvalmost 5 years ago
My pet theory (which is not intended to be taken too seriously) is that it is indeed a discarded light sail, and that light sail in particular was used to transport a Von Neumann probe which detached at some point after the object entered our solar system but before we first observed it. This detachment, in addition to leaving the sail tumbling, would have changed its trajectory, meaning our estimation of which direction the object originally came from is incorrect. In any case, the probe is now busy replicating, perhaps on the surface of Mercury. In a few years an army of robots will launch from there and invade the rest of the solar system!<p>Realistically, though, it&#x27;s too much of a coincidence that such a probe would first arrive so soon after we gained the ability to conceive of it.
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sandworm101almost 5 years ago
If we put half the energy we use up arguing about Oumuamua into detecting more interstellar objects we would have the data to end this debate.<p>I&#x27;m a fan of the pragmatic mathematical approach. This was the first thing detected. The chances that the first result is also any sort of outlier are very slim. Detect and track some more of these objects. I&#x27;d bet good money that Oumuamua&#x27;s motion is very explainable once we get some better data from other, similar, objects.
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ekimekimalmost 5 years ago
&gt; Asked if there is a clear leading candidate explanation for &#x27;Oumuamua&#x27;s acceleration, Loeb referred Live Science to a not-yet-released book he authored called &quot;Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth,&quot; due for publication in January.<p>I don&#x27;t know enough about the science to have an informed opinion, but it seems to me that if the main skeptic is also selling a book based in their exciting alternate theory, that&#x27;s kinda a huge red flag.
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henriquemaiaalmost 5 years ago
I follow the <i>What da Math</i>[0] channel on YouTube to keep up with the latest news on cosmology. I highly recommend it. Very thorough and with daily updates.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;whatdamath" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;whatdamath</a>
sulamalmost 5 years ago
The subhead is &quot;Aliens? Or a chunk of solid hydrogen? Which idea makes less sense?&quot;<p>The better version would be: &quot;Journalism? Or Clickbait? Which idea makes less sense?&quot;<p>&quot;Scientific American&quot; indeed.
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ekianjoalmost 5 years ago
&gt; Asked if there is a clear leading candidate explanation for &#x27;Oumuamua&#x27;s acceleration, Loeb referred Live Science to a not-yet-released book he authored called &quot;Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth,&quot; due for publication in January.<p>Oh this is an article without substance just to promote a book?
IAmGraydonalmost 5 years ago
Read the last sentence of the article. Bias warps perception. This shouldn&#x27;t even be posted here.
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czzralmost 5 years ago
Summary: hydrogen iceberg theory questioned as the expected lifespan of a hydrogen iceberg is likely too short, given the distance Oumuamua would have had to travel.
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PopePompusalmost 5 years ago
Anytime you see an astronomy article in the popular press that sounds a bit flaky, you can bet Avi Loeb&#x27;s name will appear in it.
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m3kw9almost 5 years ago
We all need some more excitement in life, this unexpected piece of rock provides exactly that
elorantalmost 5 years ago
Previous discussion:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24204323" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24204323</a>
8bitsrulealmost 5 years ago
OK, suppose as proposed that the H2 in an object couldn&#x27;t survive the journey. What makes us certain that Oumu is interstellar? Haven&#x27;t seen that convincing argument (in human-readable form).<p>Voyagers I and II are leaving the solar system; they got the kinetic energy to do that. I&#x27;m not convinced that all plausible histories for that happening within the SS without human assistance have been explored. As for the makeup of the object ... that will remain hypothetical. Maybe if we&#x27;d seen it sooner ...
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rbanffyalmost 5 years ago
Can&#x27;t we build a probe that can reach it? What&#x27;s the fastest we can launch a ton of equipment in Oumuamua&#x27;s direction?
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_defalmost 5 years ago
I&#x27;m currently watching the Alien movies. Maybe it&#x27;s better that we are &quot;alone&quot; haha
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bluedaysalmost 5 years ago
This is pretty cool. I am constantly looking at current events and thinking to myself &quot;what if aliens were watching this?&quot;. I feel like it sorta puts things in perspective for me. Seeing that this might be a possibility is sorta thrilling.
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kristianpalmost 5 years ago
Why does it have to be a hydrogen snowball? Because no tail was detected that would have indicated a dirty methane-etc snowball? What about an stony asteroid-like object?
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lmilcinalmost 5 years ago
Well, if it was hydrogen iceberg it would not only accelerate when leaving Sol system, it would also <i>decelerate</i> when closing in.
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lowdosealmost 5 years ago
To start playing aliens throw us a snowball. What would have happend when Oumuamua would hit our planet?
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sidcoolalmost 5 years ago
I have a strong belief that we will establish first contact by 2040.
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dvh1990almost 5 years ago
It could be a probe that scans solar systems. I like that idea.
mirekrusinover 4 years ago
Personally I find it suspicious for the first alien object detected to be of a shape of standard human poo.
ssrsalmost 5 years ago
2020. &#x27;nuff said.
jcimsalmost 5 years ago
I feel we’ll be visiting it in a couple hundred years.
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thesizeofaalmost 5 years ago
I suppose they need to drive traffic on “scientific”american by either flouting aliens, mysteries, or objects the size of several thousands football fields or washing machines.<p>There is nothing alien about this space object other than its geological origin.
person_of_coloralmost 5 years ago
I don&#x27;t get it. Why don&#x27;t we image this thing directly?
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ReptileManalmost 5 years ago
And on far-off Earth, Dr. Carlisle Perera had as yet told no one how he had wakened from a restless sleep with the message from his subconscious still echoing in his brain: The Ramans do everything in threes.<p>We just have to hope there is at least one more