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The basic dramatic situations, according to 1919 manual for screenwriters

89 pointsby sharjeelsayedover 4 years ago

8 comments

jasodeover 4 years ago
When looking at human-generated categories or labels, it&#x27;s useful to think about the meta layer of &quot;lumpers vs splitters&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lumpers_and_splitters" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Lumpers_and_splitters</a><p>This thread&#x27;s article divides drama situations into 37 buckets. And another person divides stories into 7 types: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Seven_Basic_Plots" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Seven_Basic_Plots</a><p>In music... a Lumper might think of only 2 types of music -- instrumentals vs songs with vocals. A Splitter says there are 1000s of genres because even within sub-category of rap music, East coast Miami rap is <i>totally different</i> and 180 degrees opposite from West coast Los Angeles rap.<p>Lumping vs Splitting type of thinking happens in programming topics too. E.g. A lumper has no problem saying, <i>&quot;C&#x2F;C++ are low-level languages with manual memory management&quot;</i> ; but a splitter will object with, <i>&quot;I hate it when C and C++ are lumped together! They are TOTALLY different languages!&quot;</i><p>Depending on what you focus on, everybody&#x27;s customized taxonomy is &quot;correct&quot;.
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teddyhover 4 years ago
This reminds me of two things:<p>1. The <i>Save The Cat!</i> books by Blake Snyder. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blake_Snyder#Save_the_Cat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blake_Snyder#Save_the_Cat</a>!<p>2. TV Tropes (warning: TV Tropes) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tvtropes.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tvtropes.org&#x2F;</a>
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tudorwover 4 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;oP3c1h8v2ZQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;oP3c1h8v2ZQ</a><p>Kurt Vonnegut on the shapes of stories.
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Udoover 4 years ago
The categorization is interesting, from today&#x27;s perspective. Things that the author asserts are &quot;without criminal intent&quot;: rebellion, vengeance, involuntary criminal love. And then even more interesting, &quot;with criminal intent&quot;: struggle against god, sacrifice all for a passion, adultry.
goto11over 4 years ago
Note that the article talks about 37 &quot;possible stories&quot;, while the manual talks about &quot;basic dramatic situations&quot; which is a different thing.
bryanrasmussenover 4 years ago
To Sacrifice all for a passion -&gt; 62 things to be passionate about <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;designepiclife.com&#x2F;things-to-be-passionate-about&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;designepiclife.com&#x2F;things-to-be-passionate-about&#x2F;</a>
johncoltraneover 4 years ago
s&#x2F;stories&#x2F;situations
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mamonover 4 years ago
Given that:<p>1. Some of those 37 situations are more interesting than others<p>2. You need more than one of them for a good screenplay<p>3. Some situations do not mix well in one story<p>You will come to conlusion that there is limited number of possible stories.<p>Now, Hollywood has been producing dozens of movies every year for over a century it becomes clear that it is slowly running out of stories to tell. That&#x27;s why you see so many remakes&#x2F;sequels: Star Wars, Rambo, Die Hard, etc. Or remakes with a twist: let&#x27;s make main characters black&#x2F;women&#x2F;gay&#x2F;trans and pretend that we created a brand new, original story.<p>Hollywood is eating its own tail.
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