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User-friendliness and fascism

39 pointsby iamelgringoabout 14 years ago

7 comments

Percevalabout 14 years ago
The commenter/Economist writer gets their political art history wrong. Apple's roots lie in the Bauhaus, not in a fascist model of politics/art.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus</a><p>The Bauhaus was broadly socialist, persecuted by the Nazis, but believed that industrial mass production would allow architects, artists, and designers to bring art/design cheaply to the masses. You can see that line of thinking about product and design from Jony Ive back to Dieter Rams and on back to the Bauhaus.<p>A great deal of modern architecture (e.g. the International School came out of Bauhaus émigrés to the U.S. – Gropius and van der Rohe) is derived from the Bauhaus. Modern architecture has been criticized not only initially by fascists, but subsequently by a broader cross section of society, because the architects were making concrete, glass, and steel structures than had little or no human touch (cf. the landscape of Kubrick's <i>A Clockwork Orange</i>). Tom Wolfe wrote a short critique of modern architecture in 1981 called <i>From Bauhaus to Our House</i>.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Bauhaus_to_Our_House" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Bauhaus_to_Our_House</a><p>The socialist aesthetic, privileging the designer, can be just as controlling in its way as the fascist aesthetic. But this article gets Apple's aesthetic lineage and politics wrong seemingly out of sheer ignorance.
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bradleylandabout 14 years ago
Boy is this contrived. Control != fascism. A private corporation cannot be "fascist", because it has no governance over its populace (customers). I can choose, at any time, to purchase another brand of device. Choosing another government is not nearly as simple.
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jaysonelliotabout 14 years ago
I'm not a fan of the phrase "user friendly."<p>I've been a UX professional for fifteen years, focusing on the field of usability.<p>To me, "user friendly" evokes images of Microsoft Bob, software "wizards" that leave no room for user control, and chirpy in-dash car systems that overload the user with icons and friendly messages, instead of just getting the usability right in the first place.<p>I prefer the term "user subservient."<p>A good system should be subservient to the user, easy to understand, but ultimately leaving the user in control.<p>Apple and Microsoft go too far towards "user friendly," and the Linux approach veers too far towards user control without usability.
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joebadmoabout 14 years ago
I'm conflicted on the signified, maybe because I'm conflicted on the signifier. I would be less conflicted, I think, if Apple products really did "just work" as so many Apple adherents purport. But from my experience, it's just a matter of degree, i.e. Apple products "just work" more often than MS products do, but not that much more often anymore, and when Apple products don't work, they don't work harder (or maybe it just feels that way because people have so little experience trying to get non-working things to work?).<p>On a more abstract level, it just feels weird and maybe subversive to characterize the restriction of choice as freedom. I mean, it does make a sort of sense, esp. after taking human psychology into account in that restricting choice to a manageable level might make it easier for people to make decisions. But it still feels weird. Maybe it just exposes "freedom" as a flawed concept, and a tense balance between orders of magnitude-larger forces is all there is. That's a weird Lovecraftian world to live in, though.
spinchangeabout 14 years ago
I think analogy is more apt including Linux (bear with me on this)<p>The current system is (sort-of) like Linux. Pretty ad-hoc and less easy to use / figure out for the un-initiated. Often basic things are left out, not because they don't exist or work, but over principle.<p>The Democrats want to upgrade the current HC system to a Mac and the Republicans are certain that we'll end up with Windows instead.
hammockabout 14 years ago
The author is just pointing out that Apple is a model of centralized control, one-way order-giving and -taking.<p>For some people a word to describe that philosophy is "fascist." For these people, fascism is not a form of government; rather it is a method, a toolset for achieving your ends.
mahrainabout 14 years ago
To the author: "GNU/Linux, have you heard of it?"
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